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What We DON'T Know about Sayfullo Saipov
Center for Immigration Studies ^ | November 1, 2017 | By Dan Cadman

Posted on 11/01/2017 10:09:51 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

As I write this, a few facts are starting to trickle out about Sayfullo Habibullaevic Saipov, the man who committed the terrorist attack in Manhattan using a rented Home Depot truck on October 31, killing eight and injuring nearly a dozen more innocent people. (See, for instance, here and here.)

First, we are told that he is Uzbek, having arrived in the United States from Uzbekistan "legally" in 2010. Second, some outlets have suggested that he may be married with two children, but I haven't seen any multiple verifications of that. Third, he appears to have been a Uber driver who they claim had undergone a "background" clearance. Fourth, he appears to have lived in the Tampa Bay area of Florida.

These few "facts" we have been told (or shown — as I will explain in a moment) are, or should be, just enough to make us demand a lot more information from our government. Here are a few of those things.

Exactly how did he legally immigrate to the United States in 2010? One news report says he won the Diversity Visa Lottery, but that hasn't been confirmed by the Department of Homeland Security. Was he instead a refugee or a "follow-to-join" of someone in his family who was the refugee principal? Did he come as a "fiancé" of the woman who has borne his two children (if that proves true)? It's a fairly safe bet that the federal government will try to withhold the information if he arrived as a refugee or follow-to-join, citing confidentiality or privacy concerns, even though the real reason would likely be embarrassment at more proof of failed vetting procedures and a system that tilts in favor of aliens and not national security.

Not one of the media articles I've seen or read speaks to Saipov's criminal history, and yet all of the photos I'm seeing of Saipov are copies of the same mugshot. Do a website search and take a look for yourself — you can clearly see all the earmarks of a classic mugshot: the institutional setting, the measurement markers to his side, etc. I've seen the photos variously not credited or, alternatively, attributed to the Missouri Department of Corrections and the Saint Charles Missouri Sheriff's Office (SCSO). What's that about? What was he arrested for? Was it serious enough that it should have landed him in removal proceedings? Did it? If not, why not? (By the way, I've done some checking, and neither the state of Missouri or the SCSO are sanctuary jurisdictions.)

If Uber did a background check on the man before he was permitted to do pickups under the company's auspices, how did they miss the Missouri criminal history information? This wouldn't be the first time Uber's gotten into a mess over inadequate driver background checks.

Three more things of interest:

First, consider that if Saipov had been arrested in New York City, the site of the attack and a notorious sanctuary jurisdiction, the city itself would have released him back to the street so that he could go on to commit the attack. Of course, you won't find Mayor DeBlasio speaking to that point in any public appearance. It sure would be nice for some irreverent journalist to ask him to reconcile that.

Second, with regard to Saipov, I watched a BBC new anchor interview one of their BBC Uzbek Service reporters. She made the cogent point that, while he appears to have "radicalized" in the United States, he may in fact have left Uzbekistan (a majority-Muslim country ruled by Muslims) due to the government's program of actively monitoring mosques, preachers, and congregations because it is sharply aware that there is a strain of virulent, radical Islam that inevitably results in violence. (Ironically, some Uzbeks successfully claim refugee status based on the government's repressive policies, even though there is clearly a basis for its security concerns.) She made the point that Saipov, if inclined toward such radical leanings, would have had to emigrate to avoid arrest, and therefore chose a country where freedom of religion is guaranteed. It's appalling to think that one of the freedoms enshrined in our constitution would be used against us in this way, but her observations had a cogency to them that's hard to deny.

Last, I would note that in his post-attack tweeting, President Trump assured the nation that Homeland Security officials will continue to enhance the "extreme vetting" they have instituted since he took office. I'd like to take that to heart and believe it, but it's too soon yet to have much confidence in a total change of direction in a system that was bent so far to the left over so many years. Time will tell.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cis; immigration; islam; muslim; saipov; saipovbio; sayfullosaipov; visa
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1 posted on 11/01/2017 10:09:51 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

What we DON’T know???

What do you wanna know? Ask the FBI. They know. They had a file on this terrorist.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3600594/posts


2 posted on 11/01/2017 10:12:55 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Good dancer? Wanted to be a vet specializing in kittens and puppies? Worked the soup kitchen?


3 posted on 11/01/2017 10:15:02 AM PDT by albie
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To: Responsibility2nd
Yep. The FBI interviewed this animal in 2015. Did the FBI recruit him for this attack?

Also, day TWO and HOW COME WE ALREADY KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS TERRORIST ATTACK THAN THE ONE IN LAS VEGAS, NEVADA?

4 posted on 11/01/2017 10:15:35 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Uber driver?

Damned if I would get in a car driven by someone looking like this.


5 posted on 11/01/2017 10:15:42 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

That’s the filthiest looking beard I’ve ever seen. Little d-bag.


6 posted on 11/01/2017 10:15:52 AM PDT by albie
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To: CivilWarBrewing
Also, day TWO and HOW COME WE ALREADY KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS TERRORIST ATTACK THAN THE ONE IN LAS VEGAS, NEVADA?

Clear motive and evidence make a huge difference. No evidence, no motive and no suspicious activity make it hard to associate a person's thinking with a crime. Some people are just crazy, as was the shooter in LV.
7 posted on 11/01/2017 10:17:33 AM PDT by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

What we do know is Chuckie Schumer has blood on his hands.


8 posted on 11/01/2017 10:17:52 AM PDT by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small fee.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing
Good question. Here's the answer from The State.

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9 posted on 11/01/2017 10:18:48 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: CivilWarBrewing

HOW COME WE ALREADY KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS TERRORIST ATTACK THAN THE ONE IN LAS VEGAS, NEVADA?


I for one see this fact as the elephant in the room. It certainly is fodder for conspiracy buffs. I wonder if this guy’s home(s) are unsecured?


10 posted on 11/01/2017 10:19:32 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: Responsibility2nd

The FBI likely had a criminal file on this guy but they decided that no reasonable prosecutor would have proceeded with a charge and a trail.


11 posted on 11/01/2017 10:20:05 AM PDT by mosaicwolf
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Looks very much like a driver for the school bus company that I work for. The good news is that he drives for a muhamedan school, so he is unlikely to hurt those kids.


12 posted on 11/01/2017 10:20:48 AM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: hanamizu

And to add to my previous post, didn’t the FBI let the press kind of free range through the San Bernardino shooters’ home as well?


13 posted on 11/01/2017 10:21:12 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
This wouldn't be the first time Uber's gotten into a mess over inadequate driver background checks.

If he was a mooslim as suspected...then he would not be able to drive for UBER

Uber has a training guide and approval form which states the Uber drivers are obliged to take passengers with help animals...specifically blind passengers with guide dogs

Those that refuse to sign the document or don't take a blind passenger with guide dog are fired,

14 posted on 11/01/2017 10:21:34 AM PDT by spokeshave (The Fake Media tried to stop us from going to the White House, I am President and they are not. DJT)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The first time I used Uber a few years back I requested the car and my message response was “Osama” will pick you up in 5 minutes. :)
Osama was actually great guy.


15 posted on 11/01/2017 10:21:38 AM PDT by azcap (Who is John Galt ? www.conservativeshirts.com)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Doesn’t his name roughly translate to “The Rectum of Mohammed’s Horse”?


16 posted on 11/01/2017 10:22:08 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“A strain of virulent radical Islam”.

We can’t speak the truth.


17 posted on 11/01/2017 10:22:42 AM PDT by Hugh the Scot ("The days of being a keyboard commando are over. It's time to get some bloody knuckles." -Drew68)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Second, with regard to Saipov, I watched a BBC new anchor interview one of their BBC Uzbek Service reporters. She made the cogent point that, while he appears to have “radicalized” in the United States, he may in fact have left Uzbekistan (a majority-Muslim country ruled by Muslims) due to the government’s program of actively monitoring mosques, preachers, and congregations because it is sharply aware that there is a strain of virulent, radical Islam that inevitably results in violence. “(Ironically, some Uzbeks successfully claim refugee status based on the government’s repressive policies, even though there is clearly a basis for its security concerns.) She made the point that Saipov, if inclined toward such radical leanings, would have had to emigrate to avoid arrest, and therefore chose a country where freedom of religion is guaranteed. It’s appalling to think that one of the freedoms enshrined in our constitution would be used against us in this way, but her observations had a cogency to them that’s hard to deny”

Scarey. We are a haven for lunatics unwelcomed in their own countries.


18 posted on 11/01/2017 10:30:09 AM PDT by ZULU (DITCH MITCH!!! DUMP RYAN!! DROP DEAD MCCAIN!! KIM FATTY the THIRD = Kim Jung Un)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Democrat Response: New regulations on truck rentals at Home Depot.


19 posted on 11/01/2017 10:30:37 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: albie

The mugshot of this scumbag with pubic hair all over his face is old. The vid of him getting into the ambulance are clean shaven.


20 posted on 11/01/2017 10:49:11 AM PDT by Noob1999
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