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Japan Sounds Alarm On "Unprecedented, Critical And Imminent” Threat From North Korea
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Posted on 10/23/2017 10:58:43 AM PDT by JP1201
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To: DoughtyOne
Iran might be getting close to that — they want to hit us as well as Israel.
BTW, I am agreeing with you. Iran is already mentioned in Bible Prophecy for the Last Days; we know how that one turns out.
NK is anyone’s guess. I certainly don’t think we’re gonna give them any more Obama cash / basketballs.
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posted on
10/23/2017 11:40:55 AM PDT
by
SaveFerris
(Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
To: JP1201
China better control what goes on in its theater of operations. If NKOR attacks anybody it will be China’s fault because they failed to control their mad-dog ally.
China better not just let it happen.
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posted on
10/23/2017 11:41:49 AM PDT
by
Rapscallion
(Politics just makes us hate each other.)
To: jjsheridan5
“If they were as suicidal as you seem to think they were, they wouldn’t have remained behind the DMZ for as long as they have. Suicidal regimes don’t tend to hold power for 60 years.”
Suicidal may not, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t dangerously irrational. Cuba has survived as a communist country for almost 60 years, and if you read the declassified documents from the USSR, Castro wrote to Moscow supporting the use of nuclear weapons against the US. Definitely not rational, and lucky for the world there were cooler and more rational heads in the USSR at that point.
To: DoughtyOne
BTW, I’m NOT saying Iran can hit us right now — last I saw Europe was well-within reach. I think they’ll save the major punch for their eventual attack on Israel.
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posted on
10/23/2017 11:42:08 AM PDT
by
SaveFerris
(Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
To: DoughtyOne
Remind me what other nation is starving it's citizens to develop nuclear weapons ... wake the F up.
Um, you may want to wake up, yourself. I am not talking about "other countries". I am talking about North Korea. They clearly have nuclear capability at this point. They are the ones I was referring to. We have allowed this to happen, and it is now a reality that we have "let a nation like his have the ability to disrupt our society in ways that could cost the lives of tens of millions of our citizens", in your words.
Sorry bud, but you're wrong on a number of counts.
What were the other counts upon which I was wrong?
To: SaveFerris
I agree with regard to Iran. That’s another anti-U.S. nation that will use nukes if they get them.
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posted on
10/23/2017 11:43:00 AM PDT
by
DoughtyOne
(John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
To: DoughtyOne
With one EMP attack, the Western United States goes dark.And within a hour, NK would cease to exist.
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posted on
10/23/2017 11:43:19 AM PDT
by
Fresh Wind
(Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
To: SaveFerris
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posted on
10/23/2017 11:43:21 AM PDT
by
DoughtyOne
(John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
To: JP1201
I would like to see the Japanese Parliament debate declaring war on North Korea. I would wager that no one in North or South Korea and especially not China wants Japanese Army boots on the ground in that part of the world. Too many horrible memories of what happened the last time Japan’s military invaded mainland Asia.
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posted on
10/23/2017 11:43:26 AM PDT
by
Robert357
( Dan Rather was discharged as "medically unfit" on May 11, 1954.)
To: jjsheridan5
Everything you stated.
If you’re wrong, we lose tens of millions of people.
If I am wrong, we end North Korea’s nuclear capability before it is full strength.
Jimmy, is this you?
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posted on
10/23/2017 11:45:23 AM PDT
by
DoughtyOne
(John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
To: Fresh Wind
Sounds like a trade you’re willing to make.
I’m not.
We end his nuclear capability right now.
Jimmy, is that you?
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posted on
10/23/2017 11:46:14 AM PDT
by
DoughtyOne
(John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
To: neverevergiveup
Suicidal may not, but that doesnt mean they arent dangerously irrational.
I am not sure I agree with your definition of "irrational". Hitler's invasion of the Soviet Union (and his failure to listen to his generals when it bogged down) -- that was "irrational". It was a plan which was borne out of paranoia, not reality, and had no realistic chance of success (therefore, "irrational"). What NK is doing is not irrational, at least if it is, I cannot see where. It is high stakes, to be sure. And dangerous, to be sure. But "irrational" implies a disconnect from reality that I just don't see here. He has played a high stakes game, showing the world that he has nuclear weaponry, and showing the world that he doesn't care about international norms and, in so doing, has increased, not decreased, his overall negotiating position (if not with us, necessarily, then at least with other countries in the region). How does that constitute "irrational"? It sounds more like a plan that either worked, or at least has a chance of working.
I am not trying to be argumentative. I just don't see why people see him as crazy (at least in terms of what he is doing in terms of nuclear weapons), suicidal, and irrational. And I also think it is a very dangerous thing to underestimate, or wrongly evaluate, a potential adversary.
To: SaveFerris
On another discussion thread few days ago when the mention of bracing for EMP attacks were mentioned, it was hinted that a number of undisclosed power companies are stockpiling parts & transformers in preparation for such contingencies.
I hope they were ordering by the multi Costco Sized warehouses full of parts since we may needs it. Plus its better to have it & dont need it, than to need it and cant ever get any forever! We are literally looking at a "End of the World" scenario if FatBoy gets his way and it would be the biggest irony of history: The Biggest Economy & Military of the World gets taken down by a 4th rate country that cant even provide food for its citizens much less electricity, via a EMP BOMB.
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posted on
10/23/2017 11:56:40 AM PDT
by
prophetic
(Trump is today's DANIEL. Shut the mouth of lions Lord, let his enemies be made the Cat Food instead.)
To: jjsheridan5
Starving his populace isn’t the act of a mentally ill individual? Really?
So what would constitute crazy to you? I’m curious?
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posted on
10/23/2017 11:59:42 AM PDT
by
DoughtyOne
(John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
To: prophetic
As I told DO in FReepmail; I still prep when I can.
I still rotate my stock so it’s reasonably-fresh. Used to have a lot of canned pasta when it was cheap (68 cents a can). I like the small cans because you use less; though I found some big cans of beans marked-down at WM. They let me have add’l cans at that price when restocked. I offered to return them immediately to 2 different managers who I informed of their probably price error. They told me not to worry about it. I pointed out another pricing error in the dog food aisle, too.
I probably will never stop prepping, regardless. It’s a habit now.
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posted on
10/23/2017 12:01:30 PM PDT
by
SaveFerris
(Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: JP1201; SaveFerris; Roman_War_Criminal; ExTexasRedhead
I think that up to this time, we have assumed that the decision to go to war rests with us. We would be the ones to make that call.
And as history has demonstrated time and time again, that decision may not be ours to make, or in our favored time. It might be forced upon us.
If Japan or another nation takes action, or other circumstances arrived, we may find ourselves in a December 8th, 1941 situation.
The decision by President Trump to allow the US Air Force to recall 1,000 retired pilots was at the request of SECDEF Mattis. The Air Force has said they are not going to request the pilots be recalled just yet - but they have the authority now to legally do so.
This could very well affect me - as I am a retired Air Force pilot. I doubt I would be thrown back into the cockpit, as it would take many months to train me back to that operational level. But rated pilots fill many position, including working at Air Operations Centers and so many other jobs that require you to be an aviator. I can easily foresee the Air Force filling those positions by old men like me so that the young bucks can be sent back to fly the line.
Our strategic nuclear bombers are going back on alert - the first time since 1991.
Our military is making other moves to posture us for war.
Things could get "interesting."
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posted on
10/23/2017 12:02:25 PM PDT
by
SkyPilot
("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
To: JP1201
We should help Japan to become a nuclear nation. That would put some pink panties in a wad....er, yellow panties.
To: SkyPilot
Definitely wars and rumors of wars these days.
Lots of rumors of war; mostly centered around Iran and NK, IMHO. And of that, the latter. Though the President has also mentioned Iran, I believe, in the last few weeks. No? Yes?
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posted on
10/23/2017 12:04:48 PM PDT
by
SaveFerris
(Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
To: DoughtyOne
Starving his populace isnt the act of a mentally ill individual? Really?
Depraved, malevolent, evil. All of these things. Certainly, it is not normal behavior. But the problem is that people often confuse this type of psychopathic behavior with "irrational" and "suicidal". The problem is: what if he isn't? What if they actually know what they are doing, but we make poor decisions because we are assuming that they are just behaving irrational and crazy. I don't know what the best way to solve the issue is. I suspect nobody does. What I do know is that sticking our heads in the sand about their capabilities isn't a good first step. I also know that formulating a strategy in response (a strategy which is well thought out), should start by correctly evaluating why they are doing what they are doing, and not just getting all emotional decrying his "craziness". Personally, I don't think it is just craziness driving this, but rather something much more akin to what has driven them for decades.
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