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McCain the short timer is still obviously very bitter and very angry. Perhaps it is because his ISIS buddies have been wiped out by President Trump.

Anyway, McCain is mad at President Trump for defending himself against the fake attacks from serial liar and low IQ Frederica Wilson that always votes against the Veterans (see her record) and thinks she is Roy Rogers.

So once again McCain takes another swing at President Trump like he did during the Primaries. Did McCain ever say this to President Bill Clinton?

Answer: No

Perhaps President Trump should make public the Hanoi Hilton Records on old Songbird? Word is they have over two dozen or 30 audio tapes of McCain doing a "Tokyo Rose" style propaganda radio for the enemy against the U.S.

Here is one such tape the Vietnam released for the public that said it was fake. The tapes are located at the Hanio Hilton museum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNuNiU-Ip3c

1 posted on 10/23/2017 6:02:02 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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We went down this road with Dan Quayle and George W. Bush (National Guard) and with Dick Cheney (student deferments and then dependent deferments).

Richard Nixon shifted from selective service to a lottery-style draft, and then to an all-volunteer military. Today, veteran status is a positive, but not having served on active duty is not a negative.

When I was in Army ROTC, I wondered why certain people I knew avoided service, including those who joined the National Guard or a Reserve unit. I even question a cousin of mine, who I understood got strings pulled by our Congressman to be sent to Germany instead of to Vietnam.

Then, by the time I took my commission and went to the infantry officer basic course at Fort Benning, we stopped sending people to Viet Nam, I realized that I, too, had avoided the war.

At another time, the country started mobilizing Guard and Reserve units for deployment to the Middle East, and I reconsidered. Today, anybody who wears the uniform, active, Guard or Reserve, is a hero. I have since reconsidered the looseness of the old selective service system, that allowed so many people to manipulate the system.

I blame that system, and not the fellows. Especially given how f’ed up was the Vietnam War.


31 posted on 10/23/2017 6:30:25 AM PDT by Redmen4ever (u)
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I was not in the military....but I recall some controversy about McCain and John (Gengis) Kerry pushing for trade with Vietnam while abandoning the Missing in Action.

Maybe Trump could aim a few well deserved Tweets at Kerry.

32 posted on 10/23/2017 6:30:29 AM PDT by spokeshave (The Fake Media tried to stop us from going to the White House, I am President and they are not. DJT)
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This guy is scared, and pissed he is scared.

Trump let us know he has the goods and could play dirty. McCain fears he is going down and has for a while now. That is what the anger and nastiness is over.

36 posted on 10/23/2017 6:37:10 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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Songbird sings again!

NV thanks you for your service.


42 posted on 10/23/2017 6:45:11 AM PDT by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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Which is why McCain was so hard on draft dodging Clinton /s


43 posted on 10/23/2017 6:50:29 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (US out of the UN, UN out of the US)
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McCain has been savaging Trump on issues and I was wondering if he was still pissed about what Trump said about him. Looks like I was right.


44 posted on 10/23/2017 6:53:13 AM PDT by Retired Chemist
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Hey Buddy! You lost to the one who claimed to be born in Kenya.


47 posted on 10/23/2017 7:02:22 AM PDT by petitfour (APPEAL TO HEAVEN)
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Donald Trump didn’t set up those military standards. Those standards were there a long time before Trump was eligible for the draft.

I had flat feet and hammer toes, and the Army in 1961 said no way.

My vision corrected with glasses was 20/20, and the Navy, Air Force and Army said that I could not fly.

I did join the Navy Reserves in 1961 and ended up in the Navy Security Group. I apparently had some form of color blindness as per the color dots test. For some reason that prevented me from certain positions in the security group.

Again, Donald Trump didn’t set those military standards. Those standards were there a long time before Trump was eligible for the draft.


51 posted on 10/23/2017 7:10:04 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Trump is kicking their a$$es, they, ______________, want to quit. (Fill in the blank!))
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My deceased father got out of going to Nam because he had broken a shoulder blade as a teen. He couldn’t raise his arm fully over his head. He wasn’t rich he was a share cropper’s son like he himself became. This happened with all income levels


52 posted on 10/23/2017 7:12:14 AM PDT by Sybeck1
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What about the not-so-wealthy ones who fled to Canada?


54 posted on 10/23/2017 7:21:51 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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Folks, the military draft is long gone....it means little in today’s world of USA military operations.

As for Senator, John McCain, normally I would read him the riot act...but, I sincerely believe is dying right in front of our eyes. I am somewhat informed relative failing brain functions, such as stroke impact and cancer infections...which McCain is presently suffering from.

In a word, McCain is, in a way, mentally imbalanced, seething with hate and evil....but, he is to be forgiven and prayed for, because he is disabled mentally, a result of his dying illness. The voters in Arizona and the Governor are both remiss in their duties by not removing John McCain from his position as USA Senator....end of story. The McCain saga is quite sad for all concerned.


56 posted on 10/23/2017 7:23:39 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (Defeat both the Republican (e) & Democrat (e) political parties....Forever!!!)
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Thread from 2004: Bill Clinton -- Draft Dodger, Liar, Flag Burner, Traitor

The above link contains a timeline of Bill Clinton's draft avoidance, his letter to the ROTC Commander, and the ROTC Commander's notarized recollections in 1992 as Clinton was running for President.

-PJ

57 posted on 10/23/2017 7:26:15 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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McCain is an idiot. Trumps daddy was in the navy to help him if he accidentally blew up one of our aircraft carrier.


59 posted on 10/23/2017 7:42:59 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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Guess he forgot “Fortunate Son” was written about Al Gore, Jr., fortunate son of Senator Al Gore, Sr.


61 posted on 10/23/2017 7:54:11 AM PDT by FrdmLvr
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Yet he’s copacetic with Bill Clinton lying to his ROTC advisor to achieve the same end.


64 posted on 10/23/2017 8:01:16 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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I’m not too enthusiastic about draft dodgers of my approximate age.


68 posted on 10/23/2017 8:24:49 AM PDT by JimSEA
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72 posted on 10/23/2017 8:31:24 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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Little Johnny went into the family business and wore an ice cream suit, became a `reverse ace’ and questions why the average guy hesitated to jump on LBJ’s war bandwagon as a ground-pounder.
Juan never met an illegal or war he didn’t like.


73 posted on 10/23/2017 8:32:23 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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This crap was known before the election. Why bring it up now? McNasty shouldn’t throw stones, his Hanoi John days might just resurface!!!


79 posted on 10/23/2017 9:24:42 AM PDT by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: suck it up buttercups it's President Donald Trump!)
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Doesn’t sound like a fake to me. I doubt there were any voice actors in North Vietnam at the time who could fake such a distinctive voice.


80 posted on 10/23/2017 10:12:31 AM PDT by Boogieman
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