Posted on 10/22/2017 7:27:57 AM PDT by rktman
Some 200 years ago, some of the white people (North and South) sat on their porches and watched the people of color do the work that needed to be done so the whites could live the life they wanted.
If the people of color didnt produce enough to keep the whites happy, the whites complained about it. In those days, it was called slavery.
Today, 200 years later, a lot of the people of color (North, South, East, and West) sit on their porches and watch the White people work to pay the taxes that are necessary for the people of color to live the life they want. If their welfare check is not enough to keep them happy, the people of color complain about it.
It would appear to me that the only thing that has changed in the last 200 years is the color of the slaves.
It has been said that slaves don’t dream of equality, slaves dream of becoming masters, with the former masters becoming the new slaves.
Much of history affirms that, and as you’ve noted, slavery can take many forms.
When one group is forced to labor in order to produce for another group, the first group is enslaved.
The first group also winds up being treated as of lesser value, being put at the back of every line.
These things play out with taxation, welfare, and affirmative action, amongst much, much else.
“The Civil War was produced by Ken Burns and Ric Burns and written by Geoffrey C. Ward, Ric Burns, and Ken Burns.
Southern novelist Shelby Foote is the series’ eloquent principal on-camera interview.”
Foote was the main ‘face’ in Burns ‘Civil War’ series.
Here’s Foote in an interview later:
https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/06/the-convenient-suspension-of-disbelief/240318/
INTERVIEWER
Had you been alive during the Civil War, would you have fought for the Confederates?
FOOTE
No doubt about it. What’s more, I would fight for the Confederacy today if the circumstances were similar. There’s a great deal of misunderstanding about the Confederacy, the Confederate flag, slavery, the whole thing. The political correctness of today is no way to look at the middle of the nineteenth century. The Confederates fought for some substantially good things. States rights is not just a theoretical excuse for oppressing people.
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“In Foote’s eyes, Lee is not simply an honorable man but “a noble man, noble beyond comparison.” Nathan Bedford Forrest is not simply the disbander of the (presumably nonviolent) Klu Klux Klan, but “one of the most attractive men who ever walked through the pages of history.” “
And from National Review two months ago:
“In our race to rectify the past in the present, could Ken Burns in 2017 still make his stellar Civil War documentary, with a folksy and drawly Shelby Foote animating the tragedies of the Confederacys gifted soldiers sacrificing their all for a bad cause? ***Should progressives ask Burns to reissue an updated Civil War version in which Foote and southern contextualizers are left on the cutting room floor? ***
[I’m guessing they did. lol]
How about progressive icon Joan Baez? Should the Sixties folksinger seek forgiveness from us for reviving her career in the early 1970s with the big money-making hit The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down her version of The Bands sympathetic ode to the tragedy of a defeated Confederacy, written over a century after the Civil War. (Back with my wife in Tennessee / When one day she called to me / Said, Virgil, quick, come see / There goes the Robert E. Lee!) If a monument is to be wiped away, then surely a popular song must go, too.
Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/450689/erasing-history-censoring-confederate-past-rewriting-memory-mob-vengeance
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From a Vietnam Combat Infantry vet... also not impressed with the VN series...
Amazing how they hate us whities just ‘cause we’re better’n they are!
(is the < /sarc > tag needed?)
What utter bs; Burns, please go away.
I used to like Breitbart, but now refuse to give them a click. They have barred me from commenting on their forum and have ignored repeated requests that they tell me why.
Agreed. Never occurred to me, but I think your observation was spot on. We warmed to each other after that and I made sure I looked for him when he was on site.
Respect.
Burns is 100% correct here. The people who put those monuments up supported white supremacy, just like Abe Lincoln and all of the Founding Fathers did. Just like Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson were proud white supremacists.
The can be no doubt about that. White supremecy was considered normal and proper in white societies until WWII, when the modern view of race became dominant in the establishment.
Burns is 100% correct here. The people who put those monuments up supported white supremacy, just like Abe Lincoln and all of the Founding Fathers did. Just like Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson were proud white supremacists.
The can be no doubt about that. White supremecy was considered normal and proper in white societies until WWII, when the modern view of race became dominant in the establishment.
I know exactly what you mean. I have to take a significant amount of corporate training like you, and it eats at me for exactly those same reasons.
A comment like yours means a lot.
Thanks for your service and welcome home!
The sane approach - from link:
Maybe it is time for us to give up the slave culture. Praise our ancestors who suffered through it, become thankful for their sacrifices while in it and stiffen our backs in dedication to taking advantage of what they only hoped for. We owe it to those who feared even to think of the opportunities we now have.
The old culture of servicing must be replaced with a culture of thriving. It has to be us who accomplish this; it cannot be anyone else. It will not be achieved with programs, cliches, marches, protests, demonstrations or demands. And it cannot be achieved through kneeling down or burning down. Neither raised fists nor bowed heads will lift us up.
We need to accept full and complete responsibilities for the condition of our families. If it is not our fault, then we are still slaves. If our children are not protected by us, then they also are slaves.
As them to describe what white supremacy is, instead of shouting it and foaming at the mouth.
Those numbers are from the FBI uniform crime report, which is a more impressive source than a man of color on YouTube.
Those training courses can be great fun if you keep asking the instructor to clarify the contradictions and inconsistencies in the course material. Pretend you are confused and honestly interested in the answer. I drove one instructor to tears.
I love civil war history and I just couldn’t make myself watch his doumentary it smelled of dishonest propaganda. From the hollywood.
Facts are never so straightforward in war most particularly the reasoning behind them everyone has their own reason for fighting. To simply declare retroactively that the war was fought to end slavery and bring racial unity belies what everyone said at the time.
Anyone who didn’t research and read any original sources from contemporary leaders knows better. Ken burns I’m sure knows better he’s just not interested in telling anyone the truth it’s only interested in propaganda.
The same thing could more honestly be said about federal funding for Planned Parenthood.
But Ken Burns will not speak that real truth.
Does anyone know why?
STHU, baby haircut boy.
Ken Burns is a racist bigot writing history documentaries.
Ken Burns is an Anti-White Supremacist spending your money on trash.
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