Posted on 10/22/2017 7:27:57 AM PDT by rktman
Friday on MSNBC’s “MTP Daily,” filmmaker Ken Burns said many Confederate monuments were “all about the reimposition of white supremacy” after the Brown v. Board of Education Supreme Court decision causing the desegregation of public schools.
Burns said, “There is a professor — Barbara Fields — from Columbia University, and she says the civil war is still going on. Not only still going on, but it can also still be lost. Regrettably, it can still be lost … We haven’t resolved this the question of race.”
He continued, “So the monuments is a big deal and we have to understand it. First thing is, just check the date that monument went up. If it’s the 1880s and ’90s, take it down. It’s all about the reimposition of white supremacy. When we say the south and my heritage, remember in a 1861, 9 million people in the south. Four million are slaves. They are not interested in monuments to the Confederacy, a disloyal thing. Remember, the Confederacy is responsible for more loyal American deaths than Hitler or Tojo.
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I wonder if Burns and the left have considered that people who have been sexually abused by Hollywood types might find those Oscar statues every bit as offensive as BLM types find Confederate monuments.
Isn't it time we get rid of all that Hollywood imagery?
“Apparently the only thing wrong with this series is he left out the part about 58,000 of our lives being lost so the demonrats in Congress (along with some Repubs) could betray the South Vietnamese and lose the war we had fought hard to win.”
And the millions of Vietnamese and millions of Cambodians that were murdered as a result of the Democrat propaganda machines betrayal: ABCCBSNBCNYTWPO
I know. Just some info about my beloved PBR.
I posted this on another thread about that subject a few days ago:
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I did not even bother watching.
On one hand, I have admired Ken Burns for his polished presentation method, because anyone who is talented enough to get a special effect in an image editor named after him has something going for him (at least in the video editing and production aspect).
But I detest his slimy, smarmy, liberal slant he inserts into everything, all under the guise of claims of evenhanded treatment from him and his supporters, which happen to be the same people who review, judge, and hand out awards.
When I talked to people who eagerly wanted to know if I had seen the Vietnam production and what my thoughts on it were, I told them I didn’t watch it, and had no intention of watching it. They were disappointed, since I am often vocal on these types of things, and I think they wanted validation since they apparently enjoyed watching it.
Reading the linked article was disturbing, because it was stunningly (in my opinion) prescient.
The author drew the bleak picture of a future where the people who knew anything about the conflict are going to be either silent or gone, and the only historical context to those tumultuous times for the vast majority of people will be the PBS series that they will show over and over again (infuriatingly, on our taxpayer dime) and which will be standard fare recommended by the NEA for classroom material on that subject.
An evenhanded approach would say that yes, it is true that America made mistakes, and yes, atrocities were committed by individuals, as happens in all war. But the atrocities on the American side were, as a rule, committed by individuals and not part of government policy. Those mistakes were also made by the communists, and the atrocities they committed were sanctioned officially by the government. What happened to thousands of people in Hue was government policy, standard fare murder of intellectuals by communists when engaged in a power struggle.
And yes, the RVN and its military were flawed with spotty performance. But a large number of them fought reliably and valiantly with and beside our troops and often died there. There are plenty of Americans who served who had South Vietnamese they respected serving with them.
And yes, American military performance was occasionally spotty, as is the record of all combatants in all wars. But the vast majority of those who served (including draftees) did so to the best of their ability and faithfully to what we regard as “American Values”. And many of them came home, not as unstable, mentally damaged, drug addled, victimized losers, but as men who went on to have wonderful families, and successful jobs. They may not have “enjoyed” their time there (and wished the entire time they weren’t there) but I think there were few who were not touched and changed deeply to their core for the rest of their lives by their service there, and to this day regard it as one of the most formative and important (if not the most formative and important) times in their lives. And most of them are profoundly (and justifiably) proud of their service.
But most of all, any “evenhanded” approach would point out that we, as a nation, obtained a peace in 1973 at the Paris Accord that could have, and should have guaranteed safety to the Republic of Vietnam against the aggression of the Communist North Vietnam, but that through our own cowardice, irresolution, and outright hostility and backstabbing, reneged on the terms of that treaty to our former ally, and threw them to the communist wolves from the north, who did indeed ravage the population. And we LET that happen.
And an evenhanded approach would point out that it was the American Left that was responsible for this black betrayal, as black as our betrayal at Yalta to Eastern Europe and the Chinese Nationalist government, and that we condemned millions to imprisonment and death, and a huge number of others to oppression with their only option being to flee through pirate and shark infested waters.
An evenhanded approach would tell all this and more, but Ken Burns’ Vietnam, by all accounts wasn’t, and...it didn’t.
I grew up in Milwaukeestan - I’m a Miller Girl. ;)
“I fail to se the hubbub about white supreamacy. Show me a race or group that has built a better society and I will acquiesce to their supreamacy. Until then, YAY WHITE FOLKS. WE’RE NUMBER ONE!”
It would be interesting to see the data that shows all races are equal or at least equally intelligent. I strongly suspect it doesnt exist.
He doesn’t believe that rhetoric, he is just virtue signaling the usual gobbly gook the morons of the D party buy into.
Yet another guilty white liberal. They make be sick.
Trump should claw back every nickel they have received since the day they were created—when they don’t pay shut ‘em down!
I knew a Vietnamese immigrant who worked on machinery for us a few years back, and I had a difficult relationship with him.
He was extremely difficult and obstreperous, and I grew to dislike him enough to make me grit my teeth when I had to call him. He was difficult to understand, stubborn, and refused to work with you to resolve issues. (He was a very good technician, though, and a very hard worker)
Then, I was forced to work with him closely for several days in a row where we had to spend many long hours together in waiting and observation, so I asked him where he was from and when he came to America.
He said he was Vietnamese, and had been a junior ARVN officer when Vietnam fell. He came to America in 1979, and when I asked what he did between the fall of Vietnam and his immigration to America, he said that he had been in a “re-education” camp in the jungle up until 1978.
I asked if they had finally released him and allowed him to emigrate, and he said no...he had escaped the camp and made his way to the coast, stolen a boat and made it out to sea where he was rescued after a few weeks, then ended up in Australia for some reason. After a little while there, he came to America. (This was quite a few years back, so I can’t remember his exact words)
I was stunned. All the time I knew this guy, I knew nothing about him or his past, and resolved to never take for granted what a person may be or where they had come from.
But the thing that I will never forget, when I asked him what it had been like in the re-education camp, he didn’t say anything. He just got a very far away look in his eyes, and said almost inaudibly “The things we had to do...” and said no more.
It reminded me of a college history professor, a somewhat elderly gentleman who was telling us one day in class about having kidney stones, which is an odd subject to discuss with a class. Years later, after I went through several months of acute and painful kidney stones, I understood completely (I had to command myself to shut up about them, even to my poor wife) and I remembered that “far away” look the professor got in his eyes when he was talking about it.
It was clear the professor was far away too at that point, and I recall thinking “Holy crap. Whatever kidney stones are like, I don’t want them because they must really suck!”
That was the exact same look the Vietnamese guy had in his eyes when he said those words “The things we had to do...”
[What resolution of “the question of race” does he want?
What is the future, vis-a-vis race, that he wants?]
The left wants a race war and they think they will be spared.
Burns is a typical liberal self hater.
A man of color on youtube says 50% of murders in the US are committed by one race that is 13% of the population. In my town (in the south) it’s more like 75-80 %. A very recent murder, a group entered a bar to rob it and killed the owner and seriously wounded two others. The local newspaper took three days to report the dead man’s name and still no mention of what the robbers looked like. Two years ago there was a old white veteran shot to death in the parking lot of a grocery store in a “good” part of town.by a 16 y.o. yudt. I’d like for that famous documentary producer to come live in in a southern town(used to be a city but since NAFTA it’s got shitty) like a poor white person might be living. See where he stands on white supremacy.
He’s going full “Kevin Kostner.” You should never go full “Kevin Kostner.”
Why doesn’t this jackass just watch the last part of his civil war documentary, because he’s forgotten the lesson from it.
I don’t think they exactly WANT a “race war”.
What they want is equality. After all is said and done, after all the “programs” and all the laws and all the enactments of courts fail, what is emerging among POC is the idea that it is the EXISTENCE of whites that is preventing equality.
This being the case, and since POC have little exposure to any but the most liberal, self-hating whites, the idea of a simple, violent solution to the problem has arisen.
As Luke Skywalker says in the Episode VIII trailer, “I don’t think this is going to end the way you think”.
That is precisely the future the proglib comrats want for anyone here that does not recite their mantra of liberal PC speak.
Their claim is such an opposing opinion is "hate speech" and not protected by the First Amendment.
There will be no “re-education” for me, be it a camp, a screen in my house, a "professor" in a class or whatever.
For about four years I have been calling them out on both the motivation and the content of such efforts and not surprisingly (because of my age) it has mostly been in the annual "training" I am forced to take at work.
It is computer based and I answer all questions truthfully which of course means I get them all "wrong."
In the commentary I hit them with questions, not comments such as what is your motivation for attempting political re-education with these CBTs?
I have found it interesting that I have never been asked a single question on any of my commentary.
I suspect no one even looks at them as I doubt that "evaluation" of them is the goal.
The apparent goal is to just wear you down with constant bombardment of the PC crap.
Not gonna work and history proves that in the end it never does.
But the stupid just keeps rolling on...
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