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Free Trade Isn't Killing Jobs
Foundation for Economic Educcation ^ | October 16, 2017 | Pierre Lemieux

Posted on 10/16/2017 12:07:04 PM PDT by TBP

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To: arrogantsob

Trump ran on border taxes and tariffs. It must have taken some real mental gymnastics for you to vote for Trump against your religion.


101 posted on 10/16/2017 2:00:32 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Alberta's Child
How does the U.S. sell a $32.50 toaster in countries where workers earn a dollar or two an hour at best?

We have enough customers right here.

102 posted on 10/16/2017 2:01:20 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: DesertRhino

Prices determine markets. When American companies can no longer produce cheap crap, it will be done in China, for everyone’s benefit.


103 posted on 10/16/2017 2:01:44 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: DesertRhino

His collection of data made it clear that monopolies (mercantilism) were drags on the economy.

Having larger markets spur the further division of labor not possible in small ones. This increases production and lowers prices for the consumer. Hence, the reason we have international trade.


104 posted on 10/16/2017 2:05:20 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: Mariner

Adam Smith’s theory was something to shoot for not an actual accomplishment. The establishments profited from Protectionism hence were bitterly opposed to it.

Your last comment is just a Straw Man not a relevant or intelligent one.


105 posted on 10/16/2017 2:09:28 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: central_va

The same arguments can be made about why sales or income tax shouldn’t be in place.

Re-read my post. I’m on your side.


106 posted on 10/16/2017 2:09:39 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: dfwgator

I agree, that was one of the reasons I opposed Obamacare.

You do realize tariffs would grow government as well as pit portions of the economy against themselves.


107 posted on 10/16/2017 2:12:21 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: ConservativeMind

I’m sorry I was in the attack mode. I am not used to having allies. Friendly fire accident.


108 posted on 10/16/2017 2:14:06 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: TBP

These people are ready to throw themselves into the flames because they see the World Economy as a Zero Sum Game.


109 posted on 10/16/2017 2:14:29 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: central_va

And everyone already has a toaster here, right?


110 posted on 10/16/2017 2:16:40 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Tell them to stand!" -- President Trump, 9/23/2017)
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To: TBP

I understand trade very well, and have read The Wealth of Nations.

I have also studied Capital Stock Adjustment theory and Friedman, Keynes and the Austrian School.

When discussing “free trade”, none address the fact that all the nations are predatory mercantilists.

Every single one of them.

Do you propose the US eliminate all trade barriers?


111 posted on 10/16/2017 2:17:35 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: arrogantsob

Apparently our founding fathers thought industry was important enough to enact tariffs in 1789 - the USA’s first law.. I don’t remember any of them self immolating with fire.


112 posted on 10/16/2017 2:18:00 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: TBP

One thing you left out.

Along with the offshoring of manufacturing jobs, we have increasingly been offshoring technical, engineering, I.T., back office, agricultural, financial, and virtually anything else that can be done remotely. Add to that a massive influx of low skilled immigrant and illegal laborers over the last 20 years, along with dealing with heavily subsidized communist regimes and their forced technology transfers and rampant intellectual property theft, and it makes sense why nobody in their right mind would want to do business in the US.

Don’t forget, this has been going on for over 40 years. Many FRee traitors have made a fortune from selling out to third world communist regimes, and many have retired very wealthy from this process.


113 posted on 10/16/2017 2:19:57 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it. MAGA!)
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To: TBP

I understand trade very well, and have read The Wealth of Nations.

I have also studied Capital Stock Adjustment theory and Friedman, Keynes and the Austrian School.

When discussing “free trade”, none address the fact that all the nations are predatory mercantilists.

Every single one of them.

Do you propose the US eliminate all trade barriers?


114 posted on 10/16/2017 2:21:58 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: central_va

The process of creative destruction is not limited to one economy, it is a world-wide and irrepressible process. A process produced by Freedom. Capitalism is produced by trying to provide more for less this means constant change.

There are federal retraining options and programs for people whose job is lost overseas.

Should the Horse Blinder industry have been protected from automobiles? Should American tv manufactures obsolete tube technology have been protected from the competition from Japanese printed curcuit and transistor technology?


115 posted on 10/16/2017 2:22:59 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: arrogantsob

“Your last comment is just a Straw Man not a relevant or intelligent one.”

Given your concession that Smithsonian Free Trade has never been accomplished, I assert my last comment is the ONLY relevant or intelligent commentary on this subject.

So, I’ll post it again for your edification:

“And if folks want to take down all defenses to all the other Mercantilists, they are just stupid, or suicidal, or both.”


116 posted on 10/16/2017 2:25:04 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: arrogantsob
The process of creative destruction is not limited to one economy,

It will be if we economic nationalists(patriots) get our way. That is what we are fighting for. You Free Traitors™ control both parties. That has been a terrible thing for so long. All economics is political.

117 posted on 10/16/2017 2:28:18 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

We make NEW products.

You are arguing against the Export Cycle:
1 A new product is created;
2 the technology is perfected and rationalized here and prices and production are maxed out;
3 the product is exported;
4 companies in the export receiving country figure out they can produce the product with a lower price;
5 that product ceases to be produced where it was initially created BECAUSE OF MARKET FORCES.

Process starts all over.

We need to foster CREATIVITY not protect obsolescence. That is the well-spring of expanding the economic life.


118 posted on 10/16/2017 2:32:14 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: TBP

Free trade is fine.

What the President and most of us here is for free trade to be FAIR trade.


119 posted on 10/16/2017 2:33:04 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Keep fighting the Left and their Fake News!)
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To: central_va

Those aren’t Free Trade, just a caricature of the concept. Government’s claws are truly off actual free trade.


120 posted on 10/16/2017 2:34:00 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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