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Watch as Berkeley firefighters arrived in Santa Rosa, stunned by scope of Tubbs Fire
SF Gate / Berkeley Fire Department ^ | 10/15/17 | Alix Martichoux

Posted on 10/15/2017 3:40:38 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom

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To: Navy Patriot

That discussion is fine. It’s the “’All Californians deserve to die you leftist scum - I hope your state falls in the ocean.’ crowd that isn’t welcome.”

But it would be appreciated if topics are covered on a different thread. This one should be about the scale of catastrophe and human suffering.


41 posted on 10/15/2017 5:13:03 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

You aren’t being bashed.

You are aggrieved that people who have lived in the state where you live are calling upon you to be responsible.

You have become the booze binging, failing college student whose parents won’t send them anymore money.

Your response is that your parents hate you.


42 posted on 10/15/2017 5:15:02 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I’ve been to Napa Valley a couple of times, mostly up and down that road where many well known wineries are located. I saw an interview with a lady from a winery family who said the vineyards themselves had not been damaged much, and had actually served as firebreaks and saved many areas from the fires

And this time of year lawns should still be green and mowed, and landscaping done around homes. What is there about the setting of so many homes that allowed the fires to just sweep right in and set the homes afire? Are many surrounded by dry woods?


43 posted on 10/15/2017 5:17:13 PM PDT by Will88
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To: brianr10

If you notice, the large neighborhoods look like just about any suburban neighborhood and if you light a couple houses on fire in the same with 50-60 mph winds you’re going to get the same result.

While I wouldn’t have a country home in many areas out here without a several thousand gallon water tank, trash pump and couple hundred feet of fire hose, I would not have considered that a necessary asset in those Santa Rosa neighborhoods until now.

Also note, non friable asbestos or ceramic tile roofs do not suffer this as frequently...


44 posted on 10/15/2017 5:19:59 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

You blew it. Only the worst among us would have dared to make a nasty crack on a thread like this, but you went and dared them to anyway.

For your information, I’m a native Californian who spent years fighting the Cali haters here and elsewhere.

You blew it.


45 posted on 10/15/2017 5:22:07 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Mamzelle; ImJustAnotherOkie

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Ain’t that the truth. And left wing extremists just know what’s best for all of us.
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Social engineering with central planning and each and EVERY one of ‘em will be shielded by their govt position\power.


46 posted on 10/15/2017 5:29:12 PM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Horrible.


47 posted on 10/15/2017 5:34:46 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Will88

http://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Wine-Country-fires-first-fatal-hours-12278092.php

This article may help to answer your questions. I wouldn’t have believed a fire like this were even possible. It’s a long but an excellent piece with anecdotal examples of various people’s experience that night.

This is incomprehensible- at one point the fire was estimated to be moving at over 200 feet per second.


48 posted on 10/15/2017 5:38:06 PM PDT by SE Mom (Screaming Eagle mom)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Puzzeling to me is how no one even bothersed to pick up the phone and let these guys know what they were heading towards.

$50,000 of communications equipment on the truck and THIS is how it’s (not) used?


49 posted on 10/15/2017 5:40:03 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

“Too bad California can’t manage it’s resources.”

Dumb and unwanted comment.
Guessing you have never been to California. Do you blame everyone who lives in the area when a natural disaster hits?


50 posted on 10/15/2017 5:42:54 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I don't want better government; I want much less of it.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

You usually think of burned homes on he edge of the forest, but this was a whole extended neighborhood burned down. It looked like 100s of homes gone.

Terrible!


51 posted on 10/15/2017 5:47:05 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Horrifying. These men are heroes. And remember it was the Berkeley FD that were ordered to remove the American flags from the backs of their trucks a few years after 9/11, told it might “offend” someone. The only thing offensive is that California’s government is more concerned about illegals than infrastructure.


52 posted on 10/15/2017 5:47:34 PM PDT by montag813
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To: livius

Vice President Pence toured California’s burn areas on the 12th.


53 posted on 10/15/2017 5:48:38 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

“I think the burning embers must have literally flooded the sky and dropped down across a wide area all at once, setting simultaneous fires. “

That’s what it looks like to me as well. A storm of flying embers is the great fear in fire country.

We have had two fires near me in SoCal this season, but we have been very lucky, only about dozen houses were lost. Knock on wood.

We seem to be having a Santa Ana condition today, in the high 90s with 0% humidity. No wind though.


54 posted on 10/15/2017 5:49:38 PM PDT by Pelham (Liberate California. Deport Mexico Now)
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To: Balding_Eagle

This was a simplified title.The calls to command can not be heard.I ‘m sure they were told to save what they could at a certain point.


55 posted on 10/15/2017 5:51:12 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Navy Patriot

I guess no discussion of that or the fact that Kali wants to leave the USA. I mean, why do we give a sh*t about a State that hates us?


56 posted on 10/15/2017 5:55:37 PM PDT by CodeToad (CWII is coming. Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

You’re as bad as the apple fanbois. Everyone knows the about the leave it alone policy and the fire hazards. I’ve seen the the undergrowth on the mountainsides in LA. It’s a tinderbox.


57 posted on 10/15/2017 5:56:24 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: MrEdd; ProtectOurFreedom

Apparently blaming those of us who stay and fight the latino communists controlling the state isn’t bashing. Who knew.


58 posted on 10/15/2017 6:01:32 PM PDT by Pelham (Liberate California. Deport Mexico Now)
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To: CodeToad
I guess no discussion of that or the fact that Kali wants to leave the USA.

In the ultra wacko Liberal nine Bay Area Counties, Los Angeles, Sacramento and wine country counties, the Liberal voting electorate ARE totally responsible for the disastrous state their infrastructure, public and private lands and emergency preparedness is in.

No one else.

Sadly, the California uber Leftists run roughshod over the conservative, responsible counties and citizens, putting them in grave danger.

PS, ... I live in California.

59 posted on 10/15/2017 6:12:19 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (America returns to the Rule of Law)
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To: Pelham

Have you implemented the basic fire control steps repeatedly outlined?

No.

You too are that drunken college student whose parent has cut off the gravy train.

You have been told to produce a transcript with a semester worth of passing grades.

Your response is that your parents are so unfair. They OWE you unconditional money. Parents just don’t understand.


60 posted on 10/15/2017 6:15:36 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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