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I'm From Canada. Here's What It's Like to Live with Universal Health Care
Paste Magazine ^ | 07/21/2017 | By Rob Rousseau

Posted on 10/13/2017 10:15:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Milton Miteybad

I’ve had all than I can stand of this. My mother’s 84 years old, been down and weak. You can’t get them admitted.Even called an ambulance to take her to er. Not an emergency according to them.


61 posted on 10/13/2017 12:32:20 PM PDT by sweeperboy
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To: littleharbour

RE: The issue in Canada isn’t whether people should have access to government health care (that battle was lost 50 years ago), but the denial of the right to access private healthcare if you have the money to go that route. If the Communist Chinese and Vietnamese have a private health care system why can’t we?

You use the term “we”, are you living in Canada?


62 posted on 10/13/2017 12:32:34 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

You could get health insurance it was more ecpensive or you pay out of pocket or you were one of the many charity cases that doctors and hospitals covered


63 posted on 10/13/2017 12:40:23 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: SeekAndFind

Load of bull. Every Canadian I know in America stated their disaster of healthcare was one factor in immigrating to the US.


64 posted on 10/13/2017 12:41:52 PM PDT by CodeToad (CWII is coming. Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Canada 2015 medical imaging machine counts:

538 CT units
340 MRI units
264 SPECT UNits (Single-Photon Emission Computed Tomography)
47 PET or hybrid PET-CT units
214 SPECT-CT

In all, that places Canada at the bottom of the world-wide count of medical imaging machines per person. All the socialist nations are at the bottom of the list.

Japan: 52 per million.
USA: 39 per million.
France: 12 per million.
Estonia: 11 per million.
Canada: 10 per million.
UK: 6 per million.
Mexico: 2 per million.

65 posted on 10/13/2017 12:48:48 PM PDT by CodeToad (CWII is coming. Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: SeekAndFind

6 month wait to see a Urologist.


66 posted on 10/13/2017 12:56:52 PM PDT by kanawa (Trump Loves a Great Deal)
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To: Milton Miteybad

Well , I can come close. Last December I had a TRUS ( a not so much fun biopsy) . Christmas Day I noticed my urine had a slight odour. I had an urologist appointment 9am January 9th so I waited and mentioned it to her. On my way out I stopped at the private lab on the main floor , left a urine sample and at around 1:30 pm her nurse called saying a prescription had been faxed to my pharmacy . The infection and odour were gone in less than a week.

I was diagnosed with prostate cancer. I had the TRUS, bone scan (MRI), CT scan,and I was passed on to an Oncologist . She had me wait 2 months, letting 2 drugs do their magic and I had a “simulation” which is a CT scan for mapping and tattooing. I then waited a couple of weeks for the computer program that controlled my radiation treatment to come back from the programmer and then the radiation , 33 times with weekends off for healing. I finished in early Judy . My first follow up was last week and my blood test readings are very, very acceptable. And I feel great.

Last November I paid $35 for a PSA test , and I never questioned or worried about who was paying for this trip I was forced to take. I don’t recommend that trip so if you’re male and over 50 , get a PSA test, it might save your life.


67 posted on 10/13/2017 1:16:35 PM PDT by Snowyman
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To: SeekAndFind

This is why the left likes it.


68 posted on 10/13/2017 1:28:05 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Only their self-aggrandizement matters.)
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To: SeekAndFind

By the way, the regulation world affecting both medical and insurance industries make the U.S. health system far from being one of free markets.

Compare the cases your your car, your cat, and your self. Something stops working properly. You get it diagnosed. You get it repaired with surgery and other treatments.

Which treatment system was most complicated: car, cat, or self?

Most costly: car, cat, or self?

How many parties are involved in getting a catalytic converter replaced in a car? Or an intestinal operation on a cat? Or in you?

Where are the most regulations?
Which system was


69 posted on 10/13/2017 1:55:33 PM PDT by mbarker12474
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To: SeekAndFind

Depends.

1) How many others are stacked up and in line ahead of you
2) What is the assessment of each patient-do they need care right away.
3) Do they have the right Doctor on site
4) How much budget room do they have?
5) Once you get past admittance and get x-rays, etc. how many people are piled up in the examination room? Are all of the beds, chairs, recliners and gurneys in the hallway taken? Maybe you stand for a little while.
6) One time I spent a lot of time in Emergency admittance. Guy across from me nicked his arm with a chain saw. He waited..waited...waited...waited..

They limit pre-operation tests to control the number of procedures (by-passes) performed.

Plenty of reasons for people to leave Canada and pay for health care in the US, India, etc


70 posted on 10/13/2017 1:55:49 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: SeekAndFind

Natural born citizen and inmate of Soviet Kanuckistan :)


71 posted on 10/13/2017 2:10:23 PM PDT by littleharbour
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To: Steven Tyler

RE: They limit pre-operation tests to control the number of procedures (by-passes) performed.

Plenty of reasons for people to leave Canada and pay for health care in the US, India, etc

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Thanks for sharing... but may I ask, is this problem you are describing only occurring in the smaller rural places, or is this also occurring in big cities ( which tend to have more facilities ) like Toronto?


72 posted on 10/13/2017 2:27:25 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Snowyman

“if you’re male and over 50 , get a PSA test, it might save your life.”

Glad you’re doing well but no thanks, way too many false positives and unnecessary procedures because of it.


73 posted on 10/13/2017 2:33:58 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: SeekAndFind
On numerous times I have detailed here, myself a Canadian, of the problems with our system.

In short, where you have limited resources, but an unlimited obligation to provide a service, the result is rationing. The provinces must ration care. Look it is simple math. 90% of the cost of healthcare occurs in the last 5 years of life. With the aging population growing the need for the healthcare budget to expand will be necessary unless we ration care. It's just math. Think of a pyramid scheme. The scheme was built in the 1960s when we had many many workers and few retirees. Now we have to pay for it from a static tax base. Generally healthcare is about 50% of a provincial budget.

OK, I am going to repeat a counter story from someone I know who lost their child.

The wife was in labor but she was told “no, you are not” by a medical student, who had no permission to make such a diagnosis without a supervisor present. Because the baby was not delivered when it should have been it was denied oxygen when it was needed. The baby was born and all seemed OK until, in the end, it was found the baby was brain dead. The parents had to use the freedom of information process to dig all this up and their doctor tried to leave out some of the information they already had from the FOI process.

They went to a lawyer, but because a baby has no income stream, there is no financial loss they can sue for. The most they might get is $3000 for pain and suffering.

74 posted on 10/13/2017 2:39:42 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: tumblindice
He has a pregnant wife, and roommates?

I noticed that too. However, the roommates story was 2005, the baby was 2015, which makes sense I suppose.

More importantly, in each case, the cause of the malady doesn't seem to have been established, but mysteriously cleared up! Two cases of "Pure F'in Magic", IMHO.

75 posted on 10/13/2017 2:39:59 PM PDT by ssaftler (What's an NFL?)
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To: robroys woman

The statement is a load of bullshit. Quebec has $10 a day daycare - so that would be $210 per month. I pay $775 here in BC for our one child. You know why Quebec can afford it? They can’t. They received a form of province to province welfare from the provinces that run their finances responsibly. Using a complex formula provinces like BC, Alberta and Ontario are deemed as “have” provinces and therefore transfer money to Quebec, which, conveniently, since the transfer process was created, has always been a “have not” province. So they get somewhere around 12 billion dollars transferred to their province to act irresponsibly with their finances.


76 posted on 10/13/2017 2:43:11 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Guess who flies to the US for care? Our politicians and hockey players.


77 posted on 10/13/2017 2:44:54 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Gay State Conservative
My doctor refused to send me to a specialist to treat my allergies and asthma (not worth the expense). Turns out their was a miracle medicine out there called Advair. Would never had known about it except changed to doctors to one who cared more about me than saving money for the system.
78 posted on 10/13/2017 2:48:51 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Captain Peter Blood

Exactly, the USA has decided to begin the experiment on the pointy end of the pyramid scheme.


79 posted on 10/13/2017 2:49:45 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Sam Gamgee

Yeah, we have great care. But I have a feeling that “important” people get to do some line jumping over the poor schlub that’s buried in an HMO.


80 posted on 10/13/2017 2:51:48 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (White is the new Black.)
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