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A $9 Billion Highway That Promises to Pay for Itself
Citylab ^ | September 26, 2017 | Andrew Zaleski

Posted on 10/10/2017 5:17:00 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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1 posted on 10/10/2017 5:17:00 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; Bigg Red; cindy-true-supporter; ...

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


2 posted on 10/10/2017 5:18:05 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (April 2006 Message from Dan http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Gov’t has have VERY poor track record regarding tolls ever paying off any road construction, or at least going away.


3 posted on 10/10/2017 5:20:59 AM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: Paladin2

True, but I think the model these days is that the tolls don’t go away, because they pay for ongoing maintenance, not just the initial construction.


4 posted on 10/10/2017 5:29:41 AM PDT by Little Pig
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Lol.. Are they keeping gas taxes too? People are crazy. Toll roads... How many times will you pay for the same patch of asphalt.


5 posted on 10/10/2017 5:33:56 AM PDT by momincombatboots (White Stetsons up.. let's save our country!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Virginia has already done this on I495 and I95 from the Maryland border south.


6 posted on 10/10/2017 5:41:07 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

What bothers me is the corruption in the private partnership. Slick Eddie Rendell tried this with I80 when he was Pennsylvania governor.


7 posted on 10/10/2017 5:43:23 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired

Maryland? Well, given their harassment of 2A people, I stay clear of that hell hole besides the fact I rarely go north of the Carolinas these days.


8 posted on 10/10/2017 5:43:29 AM PDT by Mouton (The MSM is a clear and present danger to the republic.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

How about cutting the size of the federal government by say, 50%?


9 posted on 10/10/2017 5:44:45 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (He is leading us in Making America Great Again!)
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To: Little Pig

Unfortunately, they also use it as a way to fund large expenses.

Just across the Potomac in VA, The Dulles toll road’s toll was raised to support the construction of the Metro’s Silver line. I have no doubt it will *not* go down when they finish that project.


10 posted on 10/10/2017 5:48:12 AM PDT by tfecw (It's for the children)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

We have got to be the most gullible people on the planet.

We pay something like 65 cents per gallon gas taxes these days.

Folks, that is enough to build highways and keep them up.

Why are we setting it up so it will cost us hundreds of dollars to drive cross country, in tolls?


11 posted on 10/10/2017 5:52:13 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
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To: momincombatboots

I wouldn’t laugh at tolls - it was the way our founders and early settlers did it. Turnpikes literally and so on. It’s a usage fee. If you don’t use it, you don’t pay. What a novel concept.


12 posted on 10/10/2017 5:54:53 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

In Orlando they are building toll roads down the center of I-4 where Congressman John Mica said for years that would never happen. Then one day, out of the blue, he changed his mind, and presto, the interstate highway is a toll road!

Oh, and the cost to use the toll portion of the road is based on how much traffic there is. If traffic is heavy it will cost more.

Where is all the money from stupid lotteries going? Where are the gas taxes going?

Amazingly, Mica was promptly kicked out of Congress by the voters.


13 posted on 10/10/2017 5:55:09 AM PDT by subterfuge (RIP T.P.)
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A $9 Billion Highway That Promises to Pay for Itself

Highways never pay for themselves.

Citizens do, and now private enterprises make a profit off it too.

Is there anyone here who thinks that lowers the cost?

14 posted on 10/10/2017 5:57:57 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Ha. Boy, do I LOATHE ‘going home’. $20+ just to see the other side of the family North of Philly for the 90min. commute up I95?? Uh, no. I’ll take the Sunday-lazy-drive up old Hwy1 and skip the tolls. Better scenery and just about the same amount of time as I don’t have the FassPass (too easy to ‘forgot’ and get a nice bill when you return from the visit.

Jax, FL been putting in HOV and expanding the bypass. As the post suggests, seems to have made traffic WORSE, not better ([never ending] construction, pattern shifts).

MD, no matter the depth of your pockets, govt will demand as much lint as it can get.


15 posted on 10/10/2017 6:04:54 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: Mouton

I inadvertently jumped on a section of Raleigh toll road. I was concerned about where to pay the toll. The mail you a bill

The bill was for $0.41, the postage was $0.43


16 posted on 10/10/2017 6:19:42 AM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

I always laugh at tolls. Usage tax is different. Use ten feet of asphalt,pay each time.. usage. Tolls.. well your local state and federal taxes just aren’t cutting it.. so we need you to pay an additional tax and we will call it usage. It sounds better than how many times will idiots say ok to paying for the same ten feet of asphalt tax.
So toll roads on lots of places are in terrible shape, oh then we need a billion dollar stimulus. Some fancy signage saying thank you tax payers for your state, local, federal tax, and your tolls and.. your one Billion dollar union bailout.
If toll roads work, why are they in such bad shape?


17 posted on 10/10/2017 6:27:48 AM PDT by momincombatboots (White Stetsons up.. let's save our country!)
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To: Paladin2

“Gov’t has have VERY poor track record regarding tolls ever paying off any road construction, or at least going away.”

Don’t worry, it will be different this time. If it’s like the PPP’s throughout the rest of North American, the contract REQUIRES that the road be turned over to the state and then operated as a freeway, once the contract term is over (typically about 75 years).


18 posted on 10/10/2017 6:30:00 AM PDT by BobL
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To: DoughtyOne

“Why are we setting it up so it will cost us hundreds of dollars to drive cross country, in tolls?”

Because toll roads don’t cost anything, idiot...as you always have the option of walking to work.

(well, that’s what [paid] toll road shills claim, at least)


19 posted on 10/10/2017 6:32:14 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

As the greater NYC area learned from Robert Moses....build more roads/lanes and they will fill up.


20 posted on 10/10/2017 6:40:28 AM PDT by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd [PBUH---Pigblood be upon him]; Charles Martel for President)
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