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Las Vegas shooter had 50 pounds of Tannerite in car: Why that's concerning
Fox 17 ^

Posted on 10/04/2017 7:35:33 PM PDT by TigerClaws

NASHVILLE, Tenn.--Las Vegas Police Department Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said on Wednesday night the man responsible for the largest mass-shooting in America's history was also heavily armed with explosive chemicals. Sheriff Lombardo stated Stephen Paddock, responsible for the deaths of 58 people and over 480 injured during Sunday night's Las Vegas shooting, also had large amounts of ammonium nitrate and tannerite in his vehicle outside the Mandalay Bay Hotel.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: lvmassacre; paddock; tannerite
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To: LS

the question i have is about the provenance of the 4th floor shooter video and the quality.

to me, the flashes look very consistent. i occasionally shoot video as well as photo, and to me, the flashes seemed almost too consistent (same size, regular intervals, etc). in turn, this makes me wonder if the video could have been edited. to answer that, it would be interesting to learn the provenance of the original video. imho it would be easier, faster, and more straightforward to edit in a simple, regular flash than an irregular flash. i did not see many people concerned about the video’s provenance or the possibility of editing when the video first came out, but it has been a day or two since i last tracked it.


21 posted on 10/04/2017 7:48:09 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0ss6gCPNs4


22 posted on 10/04/2017 7:48:26 PM PDT by Clay Moore (MAGA)
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To: LS

You are on the money; this appears as a ‘throw’. Assault spraying was distraction for bigger bombing.

There is also credible background chatter that Antifa-MS-13-BLM were in on it. People don’t realize that each of those groups are trained in terrorism, MS-13 especially.


23 posted on 10/04/2017 7:49:18 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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24 posted on 10/04/2017 7:49:48 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: LS
That article deserves its' own post.


25 posted on 10/04/2017 7:50:17 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: TigerClaws

The initial burst target was apparently the fuel tanks.

Purpose was to cause major explosion and crowd would move closer to the hotel and not be able to figure out the source of explosions / firing. Instead of knowing the approximate location fire came from people would be clueless and not sure where to go.

Sheriff today implied that they believe it was a conspiracy given the complexity and components.


26 posted on 10/04/2017 7:51:28 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

from the youtube video comments:

Yeshuah is King of Kings
39 minutes ago

Incorrect. It’s a police officer with a flashlight looking for the gunman, they didn’t know where it was coming from yet. Shortly after the purported shooting by him you can see him come past after the guy in cowboy hat. More interesting is that no muzzle flash is seen from the upper Mandalay Bay right wing windows


27 posted on 10/04/2017 7:51:30 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: TigerClaws
I’m surprised that with as much preparation as this guy did, he didn’t set off the tannerite. It seem that would have killed many more than 59. I think the sheriff said he had enough to blow up a good portion of the hotel.
28 posted on 10/04/2017 7:51:59 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

Those really loud and bright explosions at fireworks displays that scare the kids.


29 posted on 10/04/2017 7:52:16 PM PDT by Eddie01
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To: Fhios

Did you see tonight’s conference?

Conspiracy likely.

50 pounds of this stuff found.

Goal was to blow up the fuel tank.

Perp had an escape plan in place.


30 posted on 10/04/2017 7:53:31 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Hieronymus

If I recall someone stated that the gunfire sounded like they were coming out of the sound speakers. Now what if the shooter on the 4th was only a visual distraction due to pinpoint flashes (which may explain why window was not broken). As LS stated just by the sound could have driven the crowd toward the fuel tanks & as for Paddock, he may have been a back up to help drive those crowd. So that is my dumb theory.


31 posted on 10/04/2017 7:54:48 PM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: SteveH
Ammonium nitrate by itself is not explosive. It requires some kind of hydrocarbon such as fuel oil, diesel or gasoline mixed with it to be an explosive. Tannerite could be the spark that sets that explosive off though because it comes in two parts and when mixed, Tannerite explodes when shot with a bullet.

So ammonium nitrate mixed with diesel fuel and put in a car with Tannerite could in theory be set off from a distance with a shot from a high powered rifle.

32 posted on 10/04/2017 7:54:48 PM PDT by Newbomb Turk (Hey Newbomb, where is your bothers ElCamino ?)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

The other detail is after mixing, Tannerite becomes more and more sensitive to impact, and ultimately (days) even a minor bump can set it off.


33 posted on 10/04/2017 7:56:08 PM PDT by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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To: TigerClaws

Wow. With 50 pounds of tannerite I know where I would have parked my car if I was an evil SOB.


34 posted on 10/04/2017 7:56:16 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts FDR's New Deal = obama)
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To: LS
The "muzzle flash" has been debunked already. It was a strobe light of some kind -- probably set off when the smoke alarms in the hotel room were triggered by the ammunition smoking off.

The distinctive sounds of two different guns firing (one much closer to the car where the video was taken) is definitely intriguing, though. I've speculated that someone at or near ground level (security, police, civilian) may have actually been returning fire against the guy on the 32nd floor.

35 posted on 10/04/2017 7:56:17 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Tell them to stand!" -- President Trump, 9/23/2017)
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To: 21twelve

There might have been ‘other players’ some of whom got cold feet when it came down to the attack.

Otherwise, why wouldn’t he shoot the vehicle with the explosive in it?

This gets stranger and stranger...


36 posted on 10/04/2017 7:58:15 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: LS

Bookmarked.


37 posted on 10/04/2017 7:59:58 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

“I am going to need a FReeper to explain Tannerite.”

You could read the article ...


38 posted on 10/04/2017 8:01:42 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: LS

“Again, I go back to the disputed “muzzle flash” on the 4th-6th floor”

LOL! That was still ‘flashing’ hours after the attack!


39 posted on 10/04/2017 8:02:34 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Alberta's Child
if there was indeed shooting from two different windows facing in two directions...

Sometimes the sound from the barrel bounces off nearby flat objects and the barrel sound as well as the bounced off sounds reach the ear at close to the same time, thus sounding louder and closer.

Other times, the primary sound might impact off flat surfaces and dissipate more before reaching the ear, thus sounding weaker, thus further away, so a small change in location can in fact fool the listener into thinking there are much closer or much farther than actual.

40 posted on 10/04/2017 8:02:41 PM PDT by going hot
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