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Survey: Majority of U.S. Physicians Now Support Single-Payer
American Thinker ^ | 10/02/2017 | Peter Barry Chowka

Posted on 10/02/2017 9:28:37 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Wonder Warthog
There is no surplus of doctors.

I should have used more precise language. I meant that the long run number of doctors would be decreasing. Therefore what you had initially would seem like a surplus later when your baseline had dropped.

Or from your viewpoint that we already have a shortage, "If you think it's bad now, just wait until singer payer takes effect and settles in."

41 posted on 10/02/2017 12:19:38 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: SeekAndFind

Because single payer is a cash cow for them. No accountability, ever rising costs and fees — no problem for them.


42 posted on 10/02/2017 12:25:27 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
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To: SeekAndFind

Although they are trained to think otherwise (the M-Diety) complex), doctors are not gods, they’re just hired help. And doctors are not first on my list for who to hire if I need financial advice (or legislative, for that matter). I care just about as much about what my doctor thinks about Single Payer as I do about what the CEO of PETA thinks about my choice of fishing lures.


43 posted on 10/02/2017 12:31:36 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: boop; Chickensoup; dagogo redux; Docbarleypop; Ethrane; gasport; hocndoc; johniegrad; ...

Ping!


44 posted on 10/02/2017 12:32:40 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
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To: SeekAndFind
It must've been another aphasia episode. I'm sure what she MEANT to say was,

"Stand Up FOR the NRA."

45 posted on 10/02/2017 12:34:40 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: Paal Gulli

Oops. Wrong thread.


46 posted on 10/02/2017 12:35:27 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: Pearls Before Swine
"Or from your viewpoint that we already have a shortage, "If you think it's bad now, just wait until singer payer takes effect and settles in.""

THAT I can accept as accurate. My 20+ year primary care physician is slowly working into retirement (he keeps part-time practice hours), and the group he is part of is having hell replacing him. That is why there are so many "nurse practitioners" suddenly showing up.

47 posted on 10/02/2017 1:20:38 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is because doctors are getting squeezed by ObamaCare. And the fact that colleges churn out Leftists.


48 posted on 10/02/2017 1:41:56 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: BlueStateRightist

This is how it was started in Canada. It was pushed by doctors.


49 posted on 10/02/2017 1:42:31 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: oh8eleven
Our system (Canada) works great for catastrophic events, like a heart attack.

But other “health style” issues are not so great. For instance we don't have pediatric doctors available to us when we need. Right now we are on referral to see a pediatric doctor, but its been 6 months and counting.

Also if a hospital screws anything up there is next to no recourse to a patient.

Not sure if Americans are aware, as it surprised my wife, but only health care is strictly covered. Dental is totally private. There is no coverage for prescriptions, or cpap machines, or seeing a therapist, or the eye doctor, or podiatrist, unless you are part of a group coverage through an employer.

50 posted on 10/02/2017 1:48:08 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: According2RecentPollsAirIsGood
No one would dare ask, but I would curious what doctors would say if polled today in Canada.

Everything is micromanaged and price controlled. This limits a doctor's billings who then, like a businessman, must cover the salary of the receptionist, office charges, ect. The billing process is a huge pain in the ass. Because of his need to maximize billings, a doctor ends up over booking patients.

51 posted on 10/02/2017 1:50:29 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: SeekAndFind

They want their salaries guaranteed, so anything that guarantees that the health care industrial complex gets paid will get the doctors backing. G-d forbid they have to compete on cost & price for their services.


52 posted on 10/02/2017 2:02:22 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Sam Gamgee
Right now we are on referral to see a pediatric doctor, but its been 6 months and counting.
Wow, that's sickening. My understanding is if you miss an appointment - no matter the reason - you go back to the "end of the line" and start waiting all over again.
I was also unaware of the restrictions in coverage for dental, drugs, eye doctors, etc. What a freakin' scam.
53 posted on 10/02/2017 2:05:29 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven
Oh, if you miss a referral? That might be the case.

I am in a good place because I have good employer benefits, so drugs covered at 80%, pay for a cpap machine every 5 years for $2000, my eye appointments, $200 for glasses, ect...

But for those without benefits either they pay out of pocket or just don't bother with eye exams, ect.. The be fair there is pharmacare that provides coverage, but you have to be dirt poor to qualify.

My wife made me realize how important eye exams are for prevention. A person she knew had something wrong in her eyes, and the eye doctor told her to go to her doctor. Turns out she is diabetic. Preventing events is a big problem in the Canadian system because you either forgo certain tests, or the wait lines are so long you find out you have cancer a few months too late.

54 posted on 10/02/2017 3:10:16 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: SeekAndFind

Along with exorbitant taxation and No Borders, the Catholic bishops have supported Communized health care for almost 100 years.


55 posted on 10/02/2017 3:52:30 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/hxxXAC3m1eQ)
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To: Albion Wilde

New physicians are over half female, and they all want a Good Government Job.

I work with a number of them, they want to work for a big company, and work not too hard.

Very different mindsets from my father’s friends and our family doctors.


56 posted on 10/02/2017 7:19:22 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: Tazzo

as I understand it Medicare has strict policies for hospital readmissions, how does that square up with good care>


57 posted on 10/02/2017 7:21:49 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: Tazzo

On the other hand as a provider in solo practice, I decline to accept Medicare because of the terribly low reimbursement , the paperwork, and the government liability.


58 posted on 10/02/2017 7:23:26 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: Sam Gamgee
Preventing events is a big problem in the Canadian system ...
While preventing is a huge part of the US h/c system. Amazing how our history has so many parallels, yet we're so far apart on this.
59 posted on 10/03/2017 5:47:21 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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