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The forgotten Holocaust: How Stalin starved four million to death
Daily Mail ^

Posted on 09/19/2017 9:40:01 PM PDT by TigerClaws

One day in the summer of 1933, in a village in Ukraine, then part of the Soviet Union, a little boy woke on top of the family stove. He was starving — not just hungry but genuinely starving. ‘Dad, I want to eat! Dad!’ he cried. But the house was cold and from his father there came no answer. The boy went over to his father, who was apparently still asleep. There was ‘foam under his nose’, he remembered. ‘I touched his head. Cold.’

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: communism; russia; socialism; stalin; ukraine
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To: TigerClaws
"The famine that struck Ukraine in late 1932 and 1933 was one of the most lethal catastrophes in European history.  "

And man made. It was a result of Stalin's collectivism, a concept which liberals still aspire to. Stalin targeted farmers, taking all their crop, even the seed for next year's crop. When the starving farmers tried to move to the cities to beg for food, the military came and forced them back to their farms to die. The Black Book of Communism recounts it in detail.

Most of the crops that were taken weren't redistributed as per communism's ideal, but sold on the international market, and the money spent by the government.
21 posted on 09/20/2017 12:19:24 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Telepathic Intruder

The people stripped young trees of bark for food, and even resorted to eating manure. Often times, their harvests would be carted off and stored til it rotted.


22 posted on 09/20/2017 12:32:54 AM PDT by Flaming Conservative
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To: dsc

Noted Democide (murder by government) historian Professor Rudolph Rummel of the University of Hawaii puts the numbers for the Ukrainian famine (aka the Holodomor) in the range of 3 to 10 million dead, with 5 million being the likely number.

See this table: http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/USSR.TAB4A.GIF

20th Century Democide page: http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM

So you’re right. 4 million is a 20% reduction from the estimates of the most widely available authoritative source.


23 posted on 09/20/2017 1:38:55 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Widget Jr

Rummel (see my previous post) puts the numbers at 60+ millions dead at the hands of the Soviets, most of which were in the Stalin time frame.


24 posted on 09/20/2017 1:44:55 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: TigerClaws
The people of the Ukraine should elect statues to British journalist Malcolm Muggeridge. Originally attracted to communism, Muggeridge, while a correspondent in Moscow decided to investigate rumors of famine in the Ukraine & in the Caucasus.
He sent his reports back to England by diplomatic pouch where they were published (under a pseudonym)
It was to deny Muggeridge's claims about a famine that Walter Duranty won his poisoned Pulitizer Prize.
25 posted on 09/20/2017 1:57:51 AM PDT by Larry381 (Gramen artificiosum odi)
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To: nickcarraway

Sure, old sport. Whatever you say.


26 posted on 09/20/2017 2:01:15 AM PDT by major-pelham
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To: nickcarraway

dumbass


27 posted on 09/20/2017 2:12:39 AM PDT by A strike (Academia is almost as racist as Madison Ave.)
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To: Impy; Steely Tom

Soros will be top of the list


28 posted on 09/20/2017 2:19:03 AM PDT by A strike (Academia is almost as racist as Madison Ave.)
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To: CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC

Yeah, the millions died from mold.

Stupid jerk !


29 posted on 09/20/2017 2:24:14 AM PDT by A strike (Academia is almost as racist as Madison Ave.)
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To: TigerClaws
A true story some might find interesting.
In the summer of 1941 during the German invasion of the Soviet Union, a German infantry unit came across an abandoned village in the Ukraine. The cottages were overgrown with foliage but were otherwise in tolerable condition. As they searched the place they came across a root cellar with signs of having been recently lived in. It turned out that a former collective farmer, who had lived in the village was still alive and still living there.The recluse was dressed in rags and was clearly insane. From what the Germans could determine the farmer's whole family had starved to death years before along with many other inhabitants of this out-of-the-way village.The rest had apparently disappeared. The unit found a graveyard with about 40 graves, many of them dating from the early thirties. The Germans fed the farmer and left him a small package of food when they abandoned the godforsaken village.
30 posted on 09/20/2017 2:51:03 AM PDT by Larry381 (Gramen artificiosum odi)
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To: TigerClaws

There’s a movie “Bitter Harvest” on this subject.


31 posted on 09/20/2017 3:07:33 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: TigerClaws

bfl


32 posted on 09/20/2017 3:16:28 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: TigerClaws

Neither of the owners of the company I work for have forgotten. They lost many family members.

L


33 posted on 09/20/2017 3:29:50 AM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: TigerClaws

The “Holodomor” actually killed more than 10 million Ukrainians by their count. It was a vicious effort to get the Ukrainian people under control. By the way, the Ukrainians haven’t forgotten or forgiven it either.


34 posted on 09/20/2017 3:42:13 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Larry381
The Germans fed the farmer and left a small package of food?

If the villagers were alive when they arrived, I am sure the Nazis would have left the villagers to the same fate - a mass grave.

35 posted on 09/20/2017 3:43:34 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: broken_arrow1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRKsOH8MyOg


36 posted on 09/20/2017 4:22:53 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: TigerClaws

Must read later.


37 posted on 09/20/2017 4:28:05 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: TigerClaws

“The New York Times has yet to retract its stories of the era praising Stalin”

First thing that came to my mind too. Stalin had MAJOR COLLABORATORS in the West. Today they’re called Antifa, and they’re not just a bunch of kids.


38 posted on 09/20/2017 5:24:15 AM PDT by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: A strike
"Stupid jerk !"

Uhh... Who was that aimed at?

39 posted on 09/20/2017 6:22:36 AM PDT by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC ("Blessed are the young, for they shall inherit the national debt" - Pr. Herbert Hoover)
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To: nickcarraway

Good one sparky, you sure seem to have a deep understanding of what is occurring in our nation!

I can’t begin to imagine the horror you live with daily with your deep hatred of the man trying to fight this sinking ship.

Now please, go find and post another one of your odd ball threads about whatever obscure thing you always seem to get happy about. Strange


40 posted on 09/20/2017 6:40:58 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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