Posted on 09/19/2017 7:29:23 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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$800,000 is 4 and 5 times higher than anywhere else in the country. There’s no way salaries are that high. How do people afford a house in SAN Francisco?
“Please don’t bring your cancerous ideology with you.”
You are lumping a population of 40 million people into a single political category. I’ve lived in California for all of my 77 years and while I don’t like the current political leadership, if I were to leave, I would not be bringing a “cancerous ideology” with me. And there are millions of us who live here who would be assets to wherever it is that you live, including the people who host FR.
The problem is that the effin’ liberals will move to normal areas but bring along their misguided political attitudes. And more areas will thus be ruined.
Then, simple, my comments wouldn’t apply to you.
But they do apply to a significant number of your fellow citizens and there are so many of the scum that a relatively small number would overwhelm the political structure of most other states.
Let’s face it, Kali was the Golden State but in the last several decades has become something of a stinking turd.
“I’ve known some people who live in the Bay Area, and they like it. That’s another issue; that some people really enjoy that area. And that’s an intangible, if people want to be in an expensive area, and are willing the pay the price to live there, then housing stays expensive.”
I am one of them, and thanks to Proposition 13 my housing is “inexpensive” in that my home is mostly paid for and that remaining is financed at less they 4%, and my property taxes are one third of those paid by they guy across the street who just purchased his home. The weather here is the best in the world, so is the food, and other things that go into making life good. The traffic is getting worse thanks to all the people who have come here,m but other than that, life is good and the RATs don’t really affect my daily life in a way that would cause me to move. And lastly, I don’t know what I would do at my age with all the leftover money if I sold my home and moved next door to “you.” Actually Dilbert, I wouldn’t want to move down to San Diego because: 1) I wouldn’t save any money buying a home in your neighborhood, and 2) your beautiful town has suffered far more than where I live from illegal immigration.
Note to those considering moving & doing it with rental trucks:
U-Haul ‘26 foot “ truck is really 23 on the floor & the other 3 feet is above the cab. Also, the wheel wells obstruct part of the floor for packing.
The PAYLOAD —what you can load the truck with—is ONLY 7400# in a U-Haul truck.
The Penske 26’ trucks are really that——a full 26 foot long, and they have a flat floor with no wheel wells to pack around. The payload in a Penske truck is 17,000#, fully 215% of a U-Haul truck.
I am trying to sell my small horse ranch property in N Nevada & move to the Midwest. I am doing so with rental trucks.
I had drawn out to scale packing the U-Haul vehicles. I would have needed 2 U-Haul “26’” trucks & 2 6 x 12 enclosed trailers for all my household & ranch goods. Mostly because of the weight allowed for the payload. Neither truck would be full. NOT even close. Those 4 rental units were going to cost me $5200 to rent PLUS sales tax of 7.1% for a total of $5569. That doesn’t include the actual costs of the trip or the loading & unloading labor.
The 2 Penske trucks with the larger space & larger payload will allow me to make this move with only the 2 trucks. The quote for renting them one way was $1634 per truck which included ALL the appliance dollys & all the insurance....2 trucks will cost me less than $3300 to drive off the rental lot. I will have about 12,500 # in one truck & about 8,500 in the other truck.
I have drawn all of this out, weighed every single box I can pick up & weigh & I have measured every item going into the trucks. I am using ‘bankers boxes’ as much as I can for compact packing & easy loading. My books & magazines & other items in bankers boxes will be the first part of the load in 1 truck, and it will be 3 boxes deep==6 boxes wide & 7 boxes high. Just those boxes add up to over 3300# because of the weight of my books.
My furniture is old—and solid wood. I have 58 years of accumulation & I am not leaving anything behind. 10 — 100 gallon Rubbermaid tanks for feed & water for my horses—2 tack boxes with contents—washer & dryer ( a couple of the LAST real MAYTAGS)-kitchen table-dining table & 6 chairs of solid oak. 2 desks- one walnut & one oak. My grandmother’s twin wedding beds—mahogany. The weight piles up. But I am on Soc Sec & I cannot replace what I am taking.
The cost to replace those 10 tanks is more than the cost of ONE rental truck.
I can heartily tell you that the Penske people have been aces with all my questions-—and I intend to rent from them for my trip when I get this place sold.
REMOVE all the illegals & watch this get back to a reasonable price.
“Let’s face it, Kali was the Golden State but in the last several decades has become something of a stinking turd.”
Speaking of “stinking turds,”I note that you are in Colorado. So you think that Chickenpooper is a better governor than our “If it’s Brown, Flush it?” The cold fact of the matter is that East Coast Commie Liberals infested California first because it has a milder climate than CO. Now they are targeting your state. And FWIW in a post here not long ago, one of your own, who is in the automotive repair business advised that from his experience, the biggest number of new cars coming into your state ( I guess you require emissions testing as a condition of registration) came from places like Minnesota and the Northeast, so the notion that you’ve been “Californicated” is probably not true.
Just reading your post gave me a headache.
If I couldn’t afford professional movers I’d sell almost everything and make the move simpler.
Good luck to you.
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Look hard at the whole equation:
You need to make a really high salary to live in the Bay area. The employer pays that to get good help.
Then Calif taxes those high earners an extra 1% over the 9.3% the others pay in state income taxes. Then the sales taxes in all those Bay Area counties are pretty high.
Then-—over 61% of all the welfare paid out in California is paid to illegals-—and you can connect the dots for yourself & figure out where that welfare money is coming from....you the taxpayer! The schools are filled with the illegals & YOUR kids are getting slowed to a crawl while the teachers —2 to a classroom now—try to teach kids who do NOT speak English....You are getting screwed. So are your kids.
KICK OUT all the ILLEGALS, & the cost of the state welfare goes down —the cost of schools goes down—and the cost of insurance & other items goes down because you are not dealing with people who do not have car insurance & the thieves have been deported, also. Crime & the contingent costs are greatly reduced & you won’t need more prisons....
Think it all through-—these costs are not just rising because of houses suddenly being ‘worth more’.
The citizens who belong in the Bay Area are competing with the ILLEGALS for housing.
I live in the desert in N Nevada on my own well. Power bill doesn’t exceed $75 a month—using lots of summer water for horses & running ceiling fans 24/7/all summer. Had 16 days over 100 this summer. Over 60 days over 90 & 51 days in a row over 90. Won’t ever move back in to ‘city’.
Oddly, the chart shows that Bay Area residents are the least likely of any in the state to contemplate leaving it.
Whatever I just rent I love where I live can’t stand the politicansv but it’s worth it to live in my cool little town of Fairfax California because it is a awesome place to live and so he just have to give up on buying million dollar real estate and just RENT about 1/5 the price of buying
All the weenies who cry about million dollar shacks I laugh at
It should be law that when you collect a state pension it is only paid if you resi””
There was a lawsuit years ago where California was demanding income taxes from people who had retired outside of Calif & had earned the pensions inside of Calif.
Got Calif in trouble-—was Taxation without Representation.
How a young couple starting out in the Bay area gets by is a complete mystery. They both have to work and then they can afford the most modest small apartment and one or both drive an hour and a half commute.
Don’t look now, but the Calif Legislature is trying to erase Prop 13.
However, IF you did sell your home in the Bay Area, I would seriously suggest moving out of Calif. There are many nice places in the USA to live & you could buy something free & clear & have $$$ left over. If you travel some, you might be surprised.
“Don’t look now, but the Calif Legislature is trying to erase Prop 13. If you travel some, you might be surprised.”
I’ve been in very nearly every state in the union, most of Western Europe (I liked Sweden, but you know how that country is today), Australia, and the Far East, and I’ve not found ANY place I’d like to live that’s any better than the Bay Area of California. I did want to go live in the South of France for a while, some years ago, but now, thanks to the Muzzies, I’ve decided to pass on that idea. If I were younger, I might consider Montana or Wyoming, but the winters there are now too severe for my wife. Plus, we like the Pacific Ocean, and we have a second home in Carmel-by-the-Sea, and our children and grandchildren are close, so we’re going to stay for the rest of what’s left of our lives.
As far as Prop 13 is concerned, the RATs have been trying to “erase it” since it was passed. It is an initiative that was passed by the voters. As a consequence, they cannot “erase” it.
Well in terms of the paradigmatical example, if you want to work for Facebook or Google or Intel or Apple any of 500 others and earn the killer money, you have to work in Palo Alto or Sunnyvale or Mountain View....on the peninsula. Most of those companies (obviously not FB) were established 20 (if not 40) years ago when the area was less dense. What you can buy in terms of housing for $1 million a reasonable distance away from that area is....almost nothing. That has spread to San Jose and all the nearby areas. [I just participated in selling a home in San Jose which was a total wreck which needed $150K in immediate repairs just to make it habitable and it went for $950K in about 3 days] I remember well, when Mountain House which is a “new” community near Tracy, better part of 100 miles away from the peninsula, was invented out of nothing just after Y2K and people bought homes out there for $600K in the middle of utterly nowhere because they could not afford $900K (then, now $1.7MM) homes closer to the peninsula.
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