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Experts admit global warming predictions wrong
The Australian ^ | September 19, 2017 | Ben Webster

Posted on 09/19/2017 1:07:03 AM PDT by iowamark

The worst impacts of climate change can still be avoided, senior scientists have said after revising their previous predictions.

The world has warmed more slowly than had been forecast by computer models, which were “on the hot side” and overstated the impact of emissions, a new study has found. Its projections suggest that the world has a better chance than previously claimed of meeting the goal set by the Paris agreement on climate change to limit warming to 1.5C above pre-industrial levels.

The study, published in the journal Nature Geoscience, makes clear that rapid reductions in emissions will still be required but suggests that the world has more time to make the changes.

Michael Grubb, professor of international energy and climate change at University College London and one of the study’s authors, admitted that his past prediction had been wrong.

He stated during the climate summit in Paris in December 2015: “All the evidence from the past 15 years leads me to conclude that actually delivering 1.5C is simply incompatible with democracy.” He told The Times yesterday: “When the facts change, I change my mind, as [John Maynard] Keynes said. It’s still likely to be very difficult to achieve these kind of changes quickly enough but we are in a better place than I thought.”

The latest study found that a group of computer models used by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change had predicted a more rapid temperature increase than had taken place. Global average temperature has risen by about 0.9C since pre-industrial times but there was a slowdown in the rate of warming for 15 years before 2014.

Myles Allen, professor of geosystem science at the University of Oxford and another author, said: “We haven’t seen that rapid acceleration in warming after 2000 that we see in the models. We haven’t seen that in the observations.” He added that the group of about a dozen computer models, produced by government institutes and universities around the world, had been assembled a decade ago “so it’s not that surprising that it’s starting to divert a little bit from observations”. Too many of the models used “were on the hot side”, meaning they forecast too much warming.

According to the models, keeping the average temperature increase below 1.5C would mean that the world could emit only about 70 billion tonnes of carbon after 2015. At the present rate of emissions, this “carbon budget” would be used up in three to five years. Under the new assessment, the world can emit another 240 billion tonnes and still have a reasonable chance of keeping the temperature increase below 1.5C.

“That’s about 20 years of emissions before temperatures are likely to cross 1.5C,” Professor Allen said. “It’s the difference between being not doable and being just doable.”

Professor Grubb said that the fresh assessment was good news for island states in the Pacific, such as the Marshall Islands and Tuvalu, which could be inundated by rising seas if the average temperature rose by more than 1.5C.

Other factors pointed to more optimism on climate change, including China reducing its growth in emissions much faster than predicted and the cost of offshore wind farms falling steeply in Britain. Professor Grubb called on governments to commit themselves to steeper cuts in emissions than they had pledged under the Paris agreement to keep warming below 1.5C. He added: “We’re in the midst of an energy revolution and it’s happening faster than we thought, which makes it much more credible for governments to tighten the offer they put on the table at Paris.”

The Met Office acknowledged yesterday a 15-year slowdown in the rise in average temperature but said that this pause had ended in 2014, the first of three record warm years. The slowing had been caused by the Pacific Decadal Oscillation, a pattern of warm and cool phases in Pacific sea-surface temperature, it said.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climate; climatechange; fraud; globalwarming
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1 posted on 09/19/2017 1:07:03 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: iowamark

What a crock. The time of your execution has been moved out. we still smell some money in your pocket.


2 posted on 09/19/2017 1:16:13 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Not my circus. Not my monkeys.)
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To: iowamark

The only part to the story that people might be welling to go along with and strongly consider....is the ‘heat-sink’ situation (where concrete and asphalt add up in a urbanized area....like Atlanta for example). In this case however, if they’d cite this and make it an actual real problem...you’d come to a dozen ways to help lessen the issue and not revolve around regulating income or taxing people.


3 posted on 09/19/2017 1:20:22 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: iowamark
"The world has warmed more slowly than had been forecast by computer models"

Garbage in, garbage out. If you feed a computer false data, you will get false results.

4 posted on 09/19/2017 1:21:22 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: iowamark

Trump stops gorebull warming in his first year in office. No pansy liberal could ever achieve that.


5 posted on 09/19/2017 1:22:05 AM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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To: iowamark

Occasionally you read these “we were wrong” articles. But then they go on to say they weren’t wrong about the conclusions, just the niggling supporting details needed to draw it.


6 posted on 09/19/2017 1:44:12 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: iowamark
"Experts admit global warming predictions wrong"

7 posted on 09/19/2017 1:48:43 AM PDT by clearcarbon
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"Experts admit global warming predictions wrong"

Too late. The science is settled.
8 posted on 09/19/2017 1:49:15 AM PDT by clearcarbon
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Too late. The science is settled.

And they did it all without being able to do the following with any consistency across data sets:

1. Define the “correct” temperature range for the planet.

2. Define the “correct” humidity range for the planet.

3. Define the “correct” mean sea level for the planet.

4. Define the “correct” amount of precipitation for the planet.

5. Define the “correct” makeup of the atmosphere.

6. Define the “correct” amount of sea ice at the N/S poles.

7. Describe/explain past glaciation and subsequent warming without any input from humans.

9 posted on 09/19/2017 1:55:55 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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computer models, which were “on the hot side”.

Yeah funny how that data has a way of supporting their conclusions, and not the other way 'round....
10 posted on 09/19/2017 2:10:59 AM PDT by Ragnar Danneskjöld
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computer models, which were “on the hot side”.

Yeah funny how that data has a way of supporting their conclusions, and not the other way 'round....
11 posted on 09/19/2017 2:11:05 AM PDT by Ragnar Danneskjöld
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"And they did it all without being able to do the following with any consistency across data sets:"

After all this time my original question remains: How is "NORMAL" climate defined?
12 posted on 09/19/2017 2:12:32 AM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: iowamark

Wow... I wish they could control the temperature in my apartment complex. The landlord doesn’t turn on the heat until November and there are some pretty cold days to come between now and November.

This crock about ‘controlling’ the earth’s temperature is one of the most laughable aspects of these global warming disciples and their loony predictions.

This dude realized that when he said it was ‘too late’ to do anything that he had gone to far. Let’s face it, if it’s too late then why would any government keep paying him for any more of his phony baloney research? You need to keep those funds flowing if you’re going to maintain the lifestyle that many of these self proclaimed ‘climate scientist’ have been accustomed to living... Jetting around the globe to exotic locals to check the temperatures, and then there are those week long conferences two or three times a year in Paris, New York and Milan.

That stuff doesn’t come cheap. Those air miles alone are worth a fortune when you go travelling on your summer break from university.


13 posted on 09/19/2017 2:34:58 AM PDT by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: iowamark

Just keep moving the goalposts so they can keep getting more taxpayer funding. So now they have more time as long as you give them more money to fund more studies to ‘fix’ things. When they already admit they had it all wrong.

Sheesh!


14 posted on 09/19/2017 2:45:38 AM PDT by Bullish (Whatever it takes to MAGA)
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To: lefty-lie-spy
Trump stops gorebull warming in his first year in office. No pansy liberal could ever achieve that.

Ol' Biff Romney sure wouldn't have.

15 posted on 09/19/2017 2:48:32 AM PDT by Bullish (Whatever it takes to MAGA)
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To: iowamark

That’s OK, just perform another revision downward of the historical temperature record, and viola! current warming is back on track.


16 posted on 09/19/2017 2:51:35 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: BradyLS

“Occasionally you read these “we were wrong” articles. But then they go on to say they weren’t wrong about the conclusions, just the niggling supporting details needed to draw it.”

Yah, for sure. They always say that next to China and India the US is the largest polluter. In absolute numbers maybe so. But, if measured or weighted against GDP we are one of the lowest.


17 posted on 09/19/2017 2:57:25 AM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: iowamark; All
the world has a better chance than previously claimed of meeting the goal set by the Paris agreement on climate change

I have a different take on this. To me it almost seems like a negotiating tactic, kind of like when you take your kid to the store and they scream for candy at the check out. When you refuse to give in, they say, "Can I just have a little? This small one?", as a way of getting what they want.

18 posted on 09/19/2017 3:10:36 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Three most annoying words on the internet - "Watch the Video")
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To: iowamark

Socialism still sucks.

97% of Personal Libertarians agree that CAGW is a hoax.


19 posted on 09/19/2017 3:13:46 AM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: iowamark

Cant read the article... subscribe only.


20 posted on 09/19/2017 3:51:28 AM PDT by wyowolf (Be ware when the preachers take over the Republican party...)
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