Amazon Caught Selling Illegal FULL AUTO Gun Parts in ATF Sting

Newstarget ^ | September 14, 2017 | Mike Adams

[Ancesthntr]

Not everyone is experienced with guns or knowledgeable about the law (esp. the latter, just look at this very thread). Good on you if you are...but if I help one person avoid making a bad mistake, I will be happy.

[Ancesthntr]

That the genie is more or less out of the bottle is pretty much beyond dispute. But if Uncle catches someone...that is another matter.

FYI, the State Department is currently banning Defense Distributed from uploading plans for a (rather primitive and inefficient) printable handgun. So, sometimes they DO outlaw free speech.

[Ancesthntr]

Look at my tagline - I do NOT agree with the 50,000 (20K is very dated) infringements. But the reality is that if you get caught violating one or more, you will more often than not be prosecuted. If you’re up to getting arrested,charged and convicted of such, just to make a point, then good luck to you. I don’t like it, and do what I can to fight it, but reality is reality.

[Ancesthntr]

BATFE should be abolshed for it’s tyrannical behavior, and several of it’s higher-ups jailed for criminal conspiracy to abrogate the 2nd and 4th Amendments.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

Remember the little adapter that turned a 2 liter soda bottle into a silencer? Way back in the 1980s! I believe it also was banned.

[Red Steel]

A follow up to for my last post. I did some research found a couple of key cases. Here's the case that they lost in 1988 but won another in 1994, 6 years later in a somewhat similar case. Note who were the presidents, Reagan and then later Clinton, at the times. Here's the case the government lost when the judge applied common or uncommon logic depending how you look at it.

This case that the ATF lost in federal court goes beyond 'mere possession' owning of a part or two and installed, however, they were still defeated. The defendant had all of the m16 trigger group installed in 6 ARs, but without auto sears or DIASs. An excerpt from one of the websites I found about this:

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"United States v. Corcoran, Criminal No. 88-11 (W.D. Pa. April 5, 1988), transcript, pages 39-40.

The authors would like to thank Mr. Stephen P. Halbrook, PhD., Esq., for providing some of the ATF source material quoted in this article.

The plaintiffs have also submitted a transcript of proceedings in a federal criminal prosecution, United States of America v. Corcoran, No. 88-11 (W.D.Pa. proceedings conducted April 5, 1988).

It appears from a review of the portion of the trial transcript submitted by Plaintiffs that Corcoran was being prosecuted for unlawfully transferring a machine gun.

The court dismissed several of the counts against the defendant, finding that the BATF was prosecuting Corcoran for transferring a weapon without an auto sear, which BATF argued was a machine gun within the meaning of statutes regulating the transfer of machine guns because it could fire more than one bullet with a single pull of the trigger, though BATF had previously ruled that a weapon without an auto sear is not a machine gun. [Obvously]

The plaintiffs have submitted other documents relating to the Corcoran case, as well as transcripts on hearings before the Senate Judiciary Committee and a Report of the Subcommittee on the Constitution of the Senate Judiciary Committee. ..."

https://case-law.vlex.com/vid/909-f-supp-490-598547946

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[lavaroise]

wow. They cannot ban a screw. Smh. This is what the ATF comes down to.