Posted on 09/18/2017 8:23:56 AM PDT by george76
A year ago my electric bill was $217/mo. Throug simple conservation measures bot it down to $106 this month.
Eat sh!t, Black Hills Energy.
If you have a standard electric hot water tank, you’d be surprised how much that adds to the bill. There are electric tankless water heaters now, or gas is probably cheaper overall if you have a line to your house.
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Yep. Mine’s been over $200 a month since 2011.
In 2000, it was maybe a little over $100.
We’ve got natural gas, thank God.
Tankless doesn’t work that well up here because in the winter time our incoming water is usually under 40F and most tankless heaters only provide a 70F heat rise, otherwise I’d have installed one a long time ago.
The feasibility of those has pretty much been debunked, evidenced by their hardly ever being advertised in my large metro area anymore.
I've even had plumbers who sell them steer me away from them. And they ARE expensive.
Must be the legal pot.
Depends upon your groundwater temps I suppose, they’re going strong in residential here. Going strong in RV’s too, much less power draw plus the space for the tank is freed up for storage or other use, both of which are big pluses in an RV, especially one set up for dry camping without utility hookups.
On of the biggest selling points for the tankless heaters is the “instant” hot water claim. But that’s if you have the unit in close proximity to the tap. That’s not always doable, and there are numerous taps in most houses.
The successful installations have a very small reserve tank to provide preheated water for the first few seconds before freshly heated water kicks in from the unit, and there’s only one in the house. That’s the economical implementation. Putting one at every hot water outlet is more of a luxury thing and won’t save a dime, probably costs more but instant unlimited hot water does have an appeal, especially with a house full of people taking showers and such. No more running out or waiting.
We put in a ground source heat pump system when we built new in 2002. Incoming water temp in the Missouri Ozarks is around 59 F.
Sytem has four 200 foot wells under the driveway. House has heated main floor via a storage tank in the furnace room, heated via the geo-thermal...
Of course if you’re stoned you don’t mind sitting in the dark.
I’m sure they’ve improved since I last checked them out (10 years ago.) I’ll look into it again.
The average sheeple loyally goes to his (or her) cubical each work day. He comes home at night, and is electronically mesmerized by multiple entertainment distractions and favorite adult beverages or chemicals.
He has automatic payroll deposit, automatic bill pay, automatic voting for "D", as he slides through life in a "happy" figurative stupor.
They are clients of the Deep State. That is their purpose in life, fed and fattened by the Deep State who make all their economic decisions.
Too much reefer exhaust, solar panels can't get any Old Sol.
I haven’t retrofitted one into my house yet, but I do have a smaller one with reserve tank in an RV, took some fiddling to get it so it would work well with “navy showers,” turning the shower on and off to conserve not just hot water but water period, a concern when dry camping since you’re limited to the contents of a 50 gallon potable water tank. I’ve been pretty impressed, was dubious at first but cheap and original 10 gal tank system needed replacing anyway.
Ground source is super nice but very expensive, it’s seldom seen outside of custom built homes for owners who plan to stay there for the rest of their lives. Radiant in-floor heat is just awesome, I envy you that. I’ve been looking at far infrared electric in floor radiant for retrofitting, cheaper than even electric heat pump, greatly enhanced comfort, easily installed. Company out of Canada. Will be playing around with a short roll of the film bought cheap off of eBay to see if it lives up to the billing before committing.
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