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To: DFG

The Spitfires during this time were using 1650 cu in Rolls-Royce Merlin engines. Two or 2-1/2 years later, the Mustang used the same 1650 cu in engine made by Packard (of course, both engines had a lot of improvements done in that time). At the time the Merlin Mustang was introduced, it greatly out performed the Spitfire.

So, the Spitfire was upgraded to a 2230 cu in Griffin engine. With that, the Spitfire was able to keep up with the Mustang. So it took a 1/3 larger engine for the Spitfire to match the Mustang. That shows the difference between a 1936 design and a 1941 design.

There have only been a few Mustangs fitted with the Griffin engine (all that I know of have been Reno racing planes) and all have crashed. It was have been very interesting if the engineers who designed the Mustang had been given permission to fit a Griffin to the Mustang with proper stress analysis and design.


21 posted on 09/16/2017 5:38:44 PM PDT by jim_trent
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To: jim_trent
Do you know anything about this P51? I have a hard time finding out just how much the counter rotating props improved performance.

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23 posted on 09/16/2017 5:58:55 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: jim_trent

I believe it was mostly due to the Mustangs wing....I might be wrong!!!


24 posted on 09/16/2017 5:59:27 PM PDT by ontap
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To: jim_trent

There is a carbon fibre Mustang called the Cameron P-51G that has a turboprop.

It's a hot ship...

25 posted on 09/16/2017 6:03:59 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: EveningStar; SkyDancer

Flying ping.


30 posted on 09/16/2017 7:18:30 PM PDT by wastedyears (Anime is real.)
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To: jim_trent

I would like to see the Mustang fitted with turbo prop power. That would be a wicked combination.


44 posted on 09/16/2017 9:28:07 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: jim_trent
The Spitfires during this time were using 1650 cu in Rolls-Royce Merlin engines. Two or 2-1/2 years later, the Mustang used the same 1650 cu in engine made by Packard (of course, both engines had a lot of improvements done in that time). At the time the Merlin Mustang was introduced, it greatly out performed the Spitfire. So, the Spitfire was upgraded to a 2230 cu in Griffin engine. With that, the Spitfire was able to keep up with the Mustang. So it took a 1/3 larger engine for the Spitfire to match the Mustang. That shows the difference between a 1936 design and a 1941 design.

Exactly. Good info, thanks.

51 posted on 09/17/2017 3:58:06 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: jim_trent

Last fall, I interviewed a P-51 pilot who had six confirmed kills.
His Mustang was the later airplane with full glass canopy and advanced engine.


53 posted on 09/17/2017 5:01:58 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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