Posted on 09/15/2017 6:03:43 PM PDT by grundle
Ditto your post #15.
Correction: Ditto your post #20.
“I agree that’s true in 99% of cases.”
I do not believe that there is any other cause. I have never been unable to identify any other cause, and neither has anyone else. Neither have I ever run across a sodomite of whom it was not true.
What in the hell does say about our youth and more importantly about those of us my age who raised them.
Well, he’s still more manly than George Will.
I knew a child from birth, she’s now about 22. She was always, and I mean always masculine. She looked like a boy her entire life. She played softball on a full scholarship at a major university. But she was always extremely masculine.
I knew one little boy from about age 5 until now. He was in our homeschool group and I don’t see that he was exposed to being molested since he was very sheltered. But that child from the time I met him until now was/is very effeminate. He practically flutters when he walks and always has.
Tomboys and sissies often grow out of it.
Nowadays, of course, they are targeted for corruption.
I have known men who were superficially effeminate but sexually normal, and women who...well, I once met a girl at the carpenter’s union who turned out to be delightfully feminine under the overalls.
I can agree that tomboys and sissies grow out of it, but these two have not.
“I can agree that tomboys and sissies grow out of it, but these two have not.”
You didn’t say that they were homosexual.
I suspect they are. They aren’t the out kind. Yet.
“I suspect they are. They aren’t the out kind. Yet.”
Assuming that they are, what that indicates is that their superficial characteristics attracted the attention of predators; not that they were “born that way.”
I’m not saying they were born gay, but that they were born with more traits of the opposite sex than there own, save their plumbing.
“I’m not saying they were born gay, but that they were born with more traits of the opposite sex than there own, save their plumbing.”
Okay, but what is the significance of that?
They were born that way. As I mentioned, I agree with you about the cause of homosexuality, save for these two exceptions I’ve observed growing up.
“They were born that way. As I mentioned, I agree with you about the cause of homosexuality, save for these two exceptions I’ve observed growing up.”
Taking what you say at face value, all we know is that they have some superficial qualities of the other sex. We don’t know if they acquired them early in life, or if there is some other factor at work. It is not demonstrated that they were born homosexual, or even that they are homosexual.
And only perfect people are allowed to be on our side?
I think they are homosexual. They give all appearance of it, but I’ve not had a conversation with them about their sexual lives because that wouldn’t be proper.
For these two, because of my close proximity to them, the girl from birth and the boy about 5 years old, I can saw with certainty that they both had traits of the sex they were not.
The little girl in question always tried to urinate standing up. She had no brothers. She did not see her father urinate. But at 3 years old she was peeing standing up, acting as if she had the equipment.
Better sense of humour, too.
“And only perfect people are allowed to be on our side?”
I didn’t say that.
I am saying that there could be unforeseen consequences when a man who suffers from a severe disorder becomes a spokesman and public avatar.
In silencio, consentum est.
“The little girl in question always tried to urinate standing up. She had no brothers. She did not see her father urinate. But at 3 years old she was peeing standing up, acting as if she had the equipment.”
To apply Occam’s razor, the simplest, most likely explanation is that she did see a man urinating. Knowledge of other cases leads one to wonder if the man she saw urinating molested her, which could account for her masculine traits.
Yes, I’m speculating, but what more likely explanation is there? Decades of desperate searching have failed to turn up a sodomite gene.
A girl who wants to pee standing up even though she has never seen a penis or a man standing up to pee is unlikely in the extreme. What possible explanation could there be for that? It is much more likely that she did see a man.
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