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Aircraft carrier is rushed to the hurricane-battered Keys
Miami Herald ^ | 12 Sep 2017 | JENNIFER KAY AND DOUG FERGUSON

Posted on 09/12/2017 7:00:19 AM PDT by shove_it

MIAMI Authorities sent an aircraft carrier and other Navy ships to help with search-and-rescue operations in Florida on Monday as a flyover of the hurricane-battered Keys yielded what the governor said were scenes of devastation.

"I just hope everyone survived," Gov. Rick Scott said.

He said boats were cast ashore, water, sewers and electricity were knocked out, and "I don't think I saw one trailer park where almost everything wasn't overturned." Authorities also struggled to clear the single highway connecting the string of islands to the mainland.

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He said the Navy dispatched the USS Iwo Jima, USS New York and the aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln to help with search and rescue and other relief efforts....

(Excerpt) Read more at miamiherald.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: hurricaneirma; shipmovement; trumpfema; usnavy; ussabrahamlincoln; ussiwojima; ussnewyork
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To: bgill
Cheap flimsy trailers and he’s surprised and shocked? I’m surprised and shocked 100% weren’t blown a hundred miles out to sea never to be seen again.

Amazing that they don't use concrete pads or pilings and tie-downs in that sort of environment. Same in tornado alley.

21 posted on 09/12/2017 8:20:51 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Lower Deck; Wonder Warthog
And just what could a carrier have done that couldn't have been done by land? I suspect the carrier will sail around a bit, maybe fly some supplies to the keys.
From Wikipedia:

Navy

The United States Navy also began Hurricane Katrina relief efforts. Several ships were dispatched to the area: The amphibious assault ships carried CH-53 Sea Stallion and SH-60 Sea Hawk helicopters which were already being used in search and rescue operations. Harry S. Truman was used as the command center for Naval operations in the area. The Navy also arranged to send eight civilian 14-person swift boat rescue teams to the disaster zone using C-5 Galaxy cargo planes.
22 posted on 09/12/2017 8:28:09 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (RuPaul and Yertle - our illustrious Republican leaders up the Hill - God help us!)
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To: shove_it

Looting control.....


23 posted on 09/12/2017 8:30:05 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Delta 21
When did the City of Miami get an aircraft carrier?

I hope they don't crash it into a freighter!

24 posted on 09/12/2017 8:33:15 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: trebb

Sadly my first thoughts were - morgue and body bags on board. Plus some sort of medical unit.


25 posted on 09/12/2017 8:36:41 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Law and Order and that includes Natural.)
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To: shove_it

Just think if Obama was president he’d be sending a ship to Cuba first. Plus bringing back any who need medical help to the US with Obamacare and foodstamps, welfare in the package. Maybe even a voting card.


26 posted on 09/12/2017 8:39:03 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Law and Order and that includes Natural.)
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To: MomwithHope
Where is the USNS Comfort?


27 posted on 09/12/2017 8:42:35 AM PDT by Delta 21
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To: Delta 21

USNS COMFORT (T-AH 20) is a seagoing Medical Treatment Facility, not a shore-based MTF. It is a Level III facility capable of providing resuscitation and stabilization care; initial wound and basic surgery; and postoperative treatment.

PRIMARY MISSION: To provide rapid, flexible, and mobile acute health service support to Marine Corps, Army and Air Force units deployed ashore, and naval amphibious task and battle forces afloat.

SECONDARY MISSION: To provide mobile surgical hospital service and acute medical care in disaster or humanitarian relief.


28 posted on 09/12/2017 8:45:45 AM PDT by Delta 21
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To: Delta 21

Good question.


29 posted on 09/12/2017 8:53:17 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Law and Order and that includes Natural.)
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To: shove_it

Get the cargo ships out of the way!


30 posted on 09/12/2017 9:25:10 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Lower Deck
"And just what could a carrier have done that couldn't have been done by land? I suspect the carrier will sail around a bit, maybe fly some supplies to the keys. But 99% of the disaster recovery resources will come down I-95 and I-75."

Search and rescue (choppers). Provide triage and emergency medical care for the injured in places where hospitals are down. Augment communications infrastructure. The dispatched carrier in this, being nuclear, will probably dock and tie into the local grid to provide emergency electrical services, but this wouldn't be a possibility in a de-mothballed carrier.

"But two your point, the Navy ships in question are all well over 30 years old, some are pushing 60. Navy ships are expensive to run, labor intensive, and at a point where spare parts are impossible to get."

And how much of that expense is involved with upkeep of weaponry/war-fighting equipment un-necessary for the new mission?? Also, I would expect that most of the really expensive stuff is weaponry-related. Maintaining an oil-fired steam plant probably uses a lot of off-the-shelf stuff. As to parts, there is no such thing as an "impossible to get" part.

"Keeping an old Navy ship around on the off chance you will need to use it is a pretty high-cost solution in search of a need

. Maybe, maybe not. I think the potential benefit is worth a formal cost/benefit analysis.

31 posted on 09/12/2017 9:31:22 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: SamAdams76

Hemingway’s 54 six-toed cats survive Hurricane Irma inside the museum

The Florida Keys’ most popular six-toed felines are safe, the Hemingway Home Museum reports.

Nearly 55 cats with the polydactyl (six-toed) gene have been accounted for after Hurricane Irma slammed the Keys as a Category 4 storm. Saturday, the museum posted photos of cats and dedicated staff members (10 stayed on the property) who survived the storm https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/09/12/hemingways-54-six-toed-cats-survive-hurricane-irma-inside-museum/656699001/


32 posted on 09/12/2017 9:34:47 AM PDT by EBH ( May God Save the Republic)
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To: Delta 21; MomwithHope

Regarding the USNS Comfort, I’m guessing that it will be send to where the casualties are the worst. We need to remember that Katrina hit the city of New Orleans head on where as Irma went the entire length of the state of Florida. Thus it will probably take a day or two to know where the ship and its medical teams are needed the most.

I’m basing this on my years in the military and needing to do operational planning. Of course I’m hoping that it was ready to sail as of last weekend.


33 posted on 09/12/2017 9:35:12 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Delta 21
...posters who admit in their 1st response that they didnt read the entire article before posting...

I've always thought that was an absurd expectation. The average reader is looking for a compact, condensed delivery of the most salient facts of a story. Few have the patience or inclination to wade through thousands of words of extraneous fluff and filler, just to root out the essential nuggets of real news within.

A well crafted headline and a carefully selected excerpt will generally give any well read person enough information to form and voice a base opinion.

34 posted on 09/12/2017 10:02:30 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Windflier

Ditto all those thoughts. The excerpt should be a summary of the most important ideas in the excerpted article, not a cut and pasted paragraph.


35 posted on 09/12/2017 10:22:36 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: C19fan

Ah crap. I thought they were going to bomb anything left standing.


36 posted on 09/12/2017 10:35:52 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Wonder Warthog

...but I want to be first!


37 posted on 09/12/2017 10:36:08 AM PDT by Delta 21
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To: Wonder Warthog
Good point about the power generation. Aircraft carriers can also produce tens of thousands (if not more) of gallons of fresh water every day as well as prepare and serve thousands of hot meals each day.

Dozens of helicopters constantly flying in with hundreds of gallon-bottles of clean, potable water, along with hundreds of individually portioned hot meals, would be a welcome sight and would be difficult if not impossible to replicate on land. Especially the fresh water.
38 posted on 09/12/2017 11:34:47 AM PDT by daltec
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To: GingisK

LOL! Terrible! ;-)


39 posted on 09/12/2017 4:16:44 PM PDT by mbj
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To: Lower Deck

<>And just what could a carrier have done that couldn’t have been done by land? <>

Carry and deliver many thousands of tons of material that could not show up for weeks before the many keys bridges are inspected.


40 posted on 09/12/2017 5:26:43 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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