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Video shows Utah nurse screaming, being dragged into police car...
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | August 31, 2017 | Pamela Manson

Posted on 09/01/2017 7:34:22 AM PDT by BobNative

A nurse says she was assaulted and illegally arrested by a Salt Lake City police detective for following a hospital policy that does not allow blood draws from unconscious patients.

Footage from University Hospital and officer body cameras shows Detective Jeff Payne and nurse Alex Wubbels in a standoff over whether the policeman should be allowed to get a blood sample from a patient who had been injured in a July 26 collision in northern Utah that left another driver dead.

Wubbels says blood cannot be taken from an unconscious patient unless the patient is under arrest, unless there is a warrant allowing the draw or unless the patient consents. The detective acknowledges in the footage that none of those requirements is in place, but he insists that he has the authority to obtain the draw, according to the footage.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: abuseofpower; assault; donutwatch; leo; nurse; police; psychocop; slc; utah
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To: Mad Dawgg

It was this simple, the cop is used to reading the suspect their rights, and here is this pissant nurse reading him HIS rights! He got pissed and lost his temper with a woman. It is pretty much that simple. The cop has anger issues and needs to get counseling.


241 posted on 09/01/2017 1:54:05 PM PDT by mc5cents (Pray for America)
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To: Rebelbase

Judge Dredd modus operandi—arrest—judgement—execution all-in-one. “I am the law!”


242 posted on 09/01/2017 2:01:57 PM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: mc5cents

Yep, someone challenged his A-tho-a-tay... you do not challenge the A-tho-a-tay of those special people who have a badge.


243 posted on 09/01/2017 2:03:28 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: caligatrux

It has been suggested to me by a cop I know that perhaps they were trying to protect the guy they were trying to get the blood from.

It is possible, just possible, that they believed they needed the blood sample to protect him or help him in any ensuing litigation, challenge to his commercial driver’s license or to his badge.


LOL

Wow. As Trump would say, you’re not a baby.


244 posted on 09/01/2017 2:04:19 PM PDT by TTFX
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To: mc5cents

> The cop has anger issues and needs to get counseling. <

The cop has anger issues and needs to be fired, and then arrested.


245 posted on 09/01/2017 2:04:49 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: BobNative
The nurse is incorrect. In Utah all the officer needs is probable cause. From the Utah Supreme Court State v. Dorsey 1986:

"Probable Cause exists where the facts and circumstances within the peace officer’s knowledge, and of which they have reasonably trustworthy information, are sufficient in themselves to warrant a man of reasonable caution in the belief that an offense has been-or is being-committed."

The nurse is guilty of obstruction.

246 posted on 09/01/2017 2:15:49 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: crusadersoldier
Chief Brown urged citizens to, “trust in the process” as well as in the Salt Lake City Police Department.

Not after we've seen how that worked out for the nurse.

248 posted on 09/01/2017 2:22:07 PM PDT by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

> The nurse is guilty of obstruction. <

With all due respect, if you believe that, then you believe that a police state is a good idea. The cop here did not explain his “knowledge”, and he did not bother to get a warrant from a judge. He simply demanded that that nurse obey his every whim and command.

The Founders took up arms against such actions.


249 posted on 09/01/2017 2:22:53 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Leaning Right

Also, the man the nurse is protecting just killed someone. She could be charged with destruction of evidence.

The cop doesn’t require a warrant, nor is he required to provide legal training to a nurse when his evidense is being metabolized. She needs to respond to a lawful order.

You must think a criminal state is a good idea if you think killers should have rights that the rest of us don’t.


250 posted on 09/01/2017 2:37:39 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

” the man the nurse is protecting just killed someone” WTF???


251 posted on 09/01/2017 2:41:46 PM PDT by crosdaddy
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To: crosdaddy

I think you are confused.


252 posted on 09/01/2017 2:45:05 PM PDT by BobNative
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To: BlueDragon

:-). FreeRepublic? What is it?


253 posted on 09/01/2017 2:46:06 PM PDT by wbill
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To: BobNative

Really??? Did you read the post I was responding too? Do that, and get back to me.


254 posted on 09/01/2017 2:48:29 PM PDT by crosdaddy
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

> She needs to respond to a lawful order. <

Oh, my. So if a cop demands to search your house, or your car, or your underwear, just let him. Don’t ask for a warrant. Don’t invoke the Fourth Amendment. Just let him do as he will. It worked for the Gestapo. And it worked for the Stasi. Why not work here as well?

By the way, the patient in this case was not the “killer”.


255 posted on 09/01/2017 2:48:42 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Try actually reading the article. The unconscious IS the victim and the dead person is the one the cops were chasing. Obviously, you need to work on your reading comprehension. If reading is a problem for you, try watching the video.


256 posted on 09/01/2017 2:55:14 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama (Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

“Also, the man the nurse is protecting just killed someone.” - Well if you define killing someone as being in the correct lane and someone swerves into your lane.


257 posted on 09/01/2017 2:55:34 PM PDT by crusadersoldier
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

“Also, the man the nurse is protecting just killed someone. She could be charged with destruction of evidence.”

That’s hilarious. You didn’t even watch the accident video, did you?


258 posted on 09/01/2017 3:05:20 PM PDT by moovova
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
The nurse is guilty of obstruction.

No, she isn't.

The truck driver in question here is lying in a coma in the hospital burn unit as a result of a head-on collision caused by a perp who was driving erratically and running from the police. There is no probable cause for the cop to need the truck driver's blood. Not even under federal CDL laws.

The perp who caused the collision died in that same collision.

259 posted on 09/01/2017 3:07:15 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: BobNative

She got emotional, she resisted ARREST.


260 posted on 09/01/2017 3:09:14 PM PDT by hawg-farmer - FR..October 1998 (---->VMFA 235 '69 -'72 KMCAS <--- F4 PHANTOM... FLYING BRICK)
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