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Affirmative Action Has Failed. It Never Had a Chance to Succeed
National Review online ^ | 8-24-17 | David French

Posted on 08/25/2017 9:48:33 AM PDT by DeweyCA

This morning the New York Times published an extraordinary, data-rich article examining the outcome of diversity efforts at colleges from coast to coast. The results, quite frankly, are sobering.

After decades of affirmative action, billions of dollars invested in finding, mentoring, and recruiting minority students, and extraordinary levels of effort and experimentation, black and Hispanic students are “more underrepresented at the nation’s top colleges and universities than they were 35 years ago”. White and Asian students, on the other hand, remain overrepresented as a percentage of the population, with Asian students most overrepresented of all.

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No one should argue that increased resources make no difference. But to omit the influence of family on educational outcome is to conveniently forget the elephant in the room. Teachers know the importance of family, and they feel its absence. A good friend taught four years in an inner-city elementary school, and she told me that out of 100 kids (25 per year) exactly seven lived with their mom and dad. None lived with married parents. Only a small minority of single moms ever showed up for parent-teacher conferences. How much money will put those kids on equal footing with peers from intact, engaged families?

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But part of our unwillingness to talk about families rests in something else — a sense of resignation and despair. After all, what can we do? What’s the four-point plan for building a marriage culture in neighborhoods where kids may grow up without knowing a single person who lives in an intact home? We often don’t like to hear that cultural problems only have cultural or religious solutions because that’s hard, that’s long-term, and that’s out of our control. So, we change what we can change — curriculum, spending levels, admissions policies — and hope for the best.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aa; affirmativeaction; discrimination
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To: DeweyCA

It’s not even a Christian issue at its root. It’s a matter of behavioral standards. I suspect very few of the Asians that are over-represented in college ranks are Christians.


41 posted on 08/25/2017 10:33:41 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: DeweyCA; All

I am always astounded when NRO is allowed on this site, and Bloomberg and Politco are not.

Weird, at least.


42 posted on 08/25/2017 10:36:26 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: DeweyCA

“Absent admissions preferences, the number of black and Hispanic students would decrease even further.”

Actually I disagree with this. Reverse discrimination programs are Peter Principle in action. Too many Ivy League admitteds should be in major state U, and those at state U belong at directional schools or jucos. This is especially true to athletes. Just look at the poor academics of collegiate sports programs.

People have the best opportunity to achieve where the pressure, curriculum and expectations are appropriate. Pushing people, especially kids, many of whom have already been pushed up the ladder, into U and programs above their pay grade is a prescription for failure.

Just look at the low graduation rates and follow up careers at the highest ranked schools. I’ve seen these people shuffled around from job to job, firm to firm, just in response to some sort of “diversity” publicity. As long as the headcount is “appropriate” at the time of counting, that’s all that matters to the Big Boyz. Then they breathe a sigh of relief until next year when they have to do the whole charade all over again.


43 posted on 08/25/2017 10:40:24 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat ("I am SpartaLee")
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To: Alberta's Child

Actually I think you’d be surprised

My own experiences has shown Asians, particularly, foreign born in athiestic places like Red China, have a hunger to learn about Christianity

And there are many others who will open their minds with a mentor who will help them do so.


44 posted on 08/25/2017 10:43:19 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat ("I am SpartaLee")
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To: DeweyCA

It’s a cultural problem in the black community, not an opportunity problem.


45 posted on 08/25/2017 10:43:35 AM PDT by BillyBonebrake
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To: dfwgator

Yep......LBJ and his famous quote about “them” voting Dimwit for “the next hundred (or was it 2 hundred) years”

Worked like a charm

BTW shouldn’t liberal Austin be demanding all El BeeJay monuments, libraries, references, etc be demolished/renamed?


46 posted on 08/25/2017 10:45:50 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat ("I am SpartaLee")
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To: hal ogen
"The Bell Curve" is a well researched and factual book that the libtards like to disparage. I'm white and don't really care if the Asians are to the left of me on the curve and I do the best with what God has given me with no excuses. Face the facts, half of Africans have an IQ below 80. One cannot make a silk purse out of a pig's ear.
47 posted on 08/25/2017 10:46:31 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Exactly so.


48 posted on 08/25/2017 10:46:55 AM PDT by gogeo (Trump appears to be working 18 hours per day while congress canÂ’t seem to get in 18 hours per week.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Exactly so.


49 posted on 08/25/2017 10:47:05 AM PDT by gogeo (Trump appears to be working 18 hours per day while congress canÂ’t seem to get in 18 hours per week.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
You can’t beat your own genetics, unfortunately, no matter how much money is thrown at you.

Both nuture and nature affect who a person is and who a person becomes.

When a child is raised in an environment (nuture) that is void of encouragement, vision and discipline - an environment that embraces immorality and lawlessness... Skin color has nothing to do with the child who comes out of that environment. I believe this is what the author is telling us.

50 posted on 08/25/2017 10:48:16 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

And then how many are castigated and called Uncle Tom’s because they’ve done what you stated?


51 posted on 08/25/2017 10:49:54 AM PDT by ex91B10
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To: DeweyCA
Affirmative action increases the numbers of black and Hispanic students at many colleges and universities,

And for some unknown reason probably related to the inherent racism of colleges with white people on their staffs, minority students graduate at much lower rates than they did back in the bad old days when college admission was mostly based on the inherently racist bases of grades and ability.

52 posted on 08/25/2017 10:50:02 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: Red Badger

“50 years wasn’t enough time?.......................”

This excuse of “not enough time” or “didn’t do it right” or “didn’t apply enough spending” is quite often applied to Keynesian economic theory failures. Interesting that such “noble” concepts as Keynes and AA have such similar excuses when they collide with common sense.


53 posted on 08/25/2017 10:52:16 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

My point is that their Christianity has nothing to do with their academic success. Academic performance among Asians doesn’t differ from one religious group to another.


54 posted on 08/25/2017 10:56:04 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: Mustangman
In fact, it’s actually a huge problem because there is no logical reason for this.

When things happen and happen consistently, there's always a logical reason.

55 posted on 08/25/2017 11:00:12 AM PDT by gogeo (Trump appears to be working 18 hours per day while congress canÂ’t seem to get in 18 hours per week.)
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To: JesusIsLord
Reminds me of a funny story about a major league baseball manager back in the 1950s who decided to run his players through exhausting workouts every day during spring training. When his players complained and asked why he was doing it, he said:

"The New York Yankees are the best team in the league right now, and they work out three hours a day during spring training. If we want to catch up to them we're going to have to work twice as hard, so we're going to practice six hours a day."

One of his players noted dryly:

"Sir -- We've got a jackass back on my family's farm in Oklahoma. You can run him around a track from sunrise to sunset every day for a year, but he ain't ever gonna win the Kentucky Derby!"

56 posted on 08/25/2017 11:00:19 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: fuzzylogic
Some black children have been ridiculed by parents for wanting to go to college, “what? you think you’re better than we are?”. I’ve heard this. This is a black child’s biggest challenge, the culture around them has so many distractions with none keeping them focused on knowledge.

THIS.

57 posted on 08/25/2017 11:03:34 AM PDT by gogeo (Trump appears to be working 18 hours per day while congress canÂ’t seem to get in 18 hours per week.)
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To: gogeo

OK. I think you’re missing my point.....there is simply no reason why more black people can’t qualify themselves for college.....therefore, it must be their choices.


58 posted on 08/25/2017 11:03:37 AM PDT by Mustangman
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To: ex91B10

It would be a very tough slog for three generations. It was very easy for the three generations to slip further and further into dependency on the Democrat plantation. It’ll be very hard to teach self-sufficiency and teach people pride in self-worth and how to deflect the Uncle Tom and “Oreo” taunts and attacks. If we don’t start this long hard climb out of the gutter, we face hundreds years more of the same loss of good American talent and virulent divisiveness.


59 posted on 08/25/2017 11:32:07 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: DeweyCA

How about boldly marking diplomas and professional licenses “AFFIRMATIVE ACTION” if the recipient benefited from such programs? How could you argue against doing so?

And new employees could be introduced as “AFFIRMATIVE ACTION” hires if that was how they got their jobs. Again, what would be the argument against doing so?


60 posted on 08/25/2017 11:39:07 AM PDT by utax
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