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New Confederate monuments are going up (Chickamauga, GA; Brandenberg, KY)
CNN ^ | August, 19, 2017 | Emanuella Grinberg

Posted on 08/22/2017 12:40:50 PM PDT by Trump20162020

Since 2007, John Culpepper had been anticipating this moment: the unveiling of a statue to the common Confederate soldier in his hometown of Chickamauga, Georgia. In November of last year, three days before Donald Trump won the presidency, it became a reality.

Culpepper founded the local chapter of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, the self-described historic honor society that's been keeping the Confederate legacy alive for more than a century.

Culpepper greeted visitors with smiles and handshakes as they filed into rows of white folding chairs behind the towering, shrouded statue. Most of them were his neighbors from Chickamauga, a town of some 3,000 people near the Tennessee border. Some were dressed in the uniforms of Confederate soldiers; a woman and her daughter came dressed in hoop skirts, and bikers wore leather jackets and bandanas awash in Confederate flags.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Georgia; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: brandenberg; chickamauga; confederate; dixie; purge
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1 posted on 08/22/2017 12:40:50 PM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: Trump20162020

It won’t be long before any statue the left doesn’t like— confederate, jefferson, Washington, et al will need a armed guard watching it 24/7.


2 posted on 08/22/2017 12:50:25 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (Liberals are pulling jenga pieces out of western civilization, how long before it all falls?)
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To: Cubs Fan

Those that seek to destroy other people’s heredity, are the ones who should need an armed guard.


3 posted on 08/22/2017 12:53:03 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Exempting Trump and his team, our media and government have adopted the Zoolander management style.)
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To: Trump20162020

Private property.


4 posted on 08/22/2017 12:55:57 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: RedStateRocker

Nope, the one in Brandenberg was placed on public property. Town officials saved it from Louisville, who were going to destroy it after removing it last year.


5 posted on 08/22/2017 1:00:20 PM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: Trump20162020

Good news. We should celebrate the brave soldiers of our history.

JoMa


6 posted on 08/22/2017 1:00:56 PM PDT by joma89
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To: Cubs Fan

They won’t dare to take down the monument for the Unknown Soldier.

Or will they?


7 posted on 08/22/2017 1:14:09 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Cubs Fan

Around here we call a statute like that ‘Antifa Bait’.


8 posted on 08/22/2017 1:14:18 PM PDT by x1stcav (We have the guns. Do we have the will?)
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To: Trump20162020

Chickamauga - the largest and one of the costliest civil war battles.

It lay on the route down to Atlanta. It had to be taken and on the other side it had to be defended.

On my mother’s family’s side, in the civil war era, we have a 16 year old from their family who ran off from home to join the Illinois divisions that Grant was forming up. He later wound up in the battle at Chickamagua, and was captured by Confederate soldiers there.

He was taken to a few prison camps along the way to the Confederate prison camp at Andersonville. He died there in a manner so many at Andersonville did. Unable to take the holocaust style of starvation any longer, he intentionally crossed a line the prisoners knew would require the guards to shoot them. By the end of Andersonville prison, it was considered a mercy.

I don’t think anyone in my family would want any memorial by anyone at Chickamauga denied. Too many families from both sides lost relatives there, or even if not there directly but due to the battle there.

Young men do not go to war to defend or deny some high ideals. Their motivations are more provincial and parochial. They believe they are defending their families. I always say yes blame the leaders, but don’t deny the common soldier his honor. This is not philosophical nonsense. The best of our human civilizations have always, after the battles, respected the respect for the common soldier.


9 posted on 08/22/2017 1:31:37 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Trump20162020

My Great Grandfather Martin fought for the Union there; trapped behind enemy lines, he was captured, sent to Andersonville (according to his pension records) and suffered horribly from malnutrition that permanently damaged his stomach. Yet I have no hatred for the Confederate soldiers who he fought against, nor do I see the point of tearing down memorials. Just my opinion.


10 posted on 08/22/2017 1:33:57 PM PDT by Ace's Dad (BTW, "Ace" is now Captain Ace. But only when I'm bragging about my airline pilot son!)
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To: 353FMG

Of course they will. It the soldier is unknown he might be Confederate, so why risk leaving a monument to the Unknown Soldier standing. Take it down to be safe.


11 posted on 08/22/2017 1:40:27 PM PDT by Liberty Ship ("Lord, make me fast and accurate.")
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To: Trump20162020

GOOD


12 posted on 08/22/2017 1:42:12 PM PDT by ZULU (DITCH MITCH!!! DUMP RYAN!! DROP DEAD MCCAIN!! KIM FATTY the THIRD = Kim Jung Un)
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To: Wuli

Too many families from both sides lost relatives there, or even if not there directly but due to the battle there.

Bingo.

Slavery may have been a contributing factor in the Civil War but it was far more than slavery that caused it. Most Confederates were poor farmers who owned no slaves. Most of the men who fought did so to prevent the invasion of their state and to protect their land and family. Many slaveholders had deep reservations about an institution they felt powerless to eliminate. Slave holders from the north fought on the Union Side.

Its was a very complicated situation even though at the core was a worm which should have been crushed at our founding.

But in no way should that detract from the sacrifice and suffering of brave men on both sides of the struggle.


13 posted on 08/22/2017 1:47:00 PM PDT by ZULU (DITCH MITCH!!! DUMP RYAN!! DROP DEAD MCCAIN!! KIM FATTY the THIRD = Kim Jung Un)
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To: 353FMG

Its not about confederates. Its about DESTROYING our culture, history and heritage and substituting a whorish global monstrosity which stands for nothing but the profit of a handful of crony capitalists and their political servants in Congress.


14 posted on 08/22/2017 1:49:39 PM PDT by ZULU (DITCH MITCH!!! DUMP RYAN!! DROP DEAD MCCAIN!! KIM FATTY the THIRD = Kim Jung Un)
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To: Wuli

I took the train down a few years back from Chattanooga to watch the events. It was a history lesson in action.

Many of the grey on the train were black re-enactors.

The train was period 1920. We had visiting relatives from Seattle with us. They enjoyed seeing history.


15 posted on 08/22/2017 1:53:15 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: ZULU

Few know that by an act of Congress in 1958 the survivors of confederate war veterans were granted the same survivors veterans benefits as regular U.S. military veterans, and that the U.S. government buried 128 confederate war dead in Arlington National Cemetery. There have been other reconciliatory acts and actions as well over the years.

The spirit of reconciliation has been stronger, at other times in our history, even closer to the civil war era itself, than the Demoncrats can allow it to be today.

They NEED racial hatred alive and well.


16 posted on 08/22/2017 2:19:06 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: RedStateRocker
"Private property."

That's exactly what will happen. They will put these statues and monuments to the Confederates on private property and shoot anyone who disturbs them.

There are big Confederate flags on I-10 and I-65 here in Alabama.

17 posted on 08/22/2017 2:28:45 PM PDT by blam
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I have visited the National Military Park in Chickamauga, Georgia, it was quite sobering what this nation went through in the civil war. Grave after grave after grave... I find it a complete disregard of history, for any to think there would be any winners if a civil war would break out again. I know right off some of my family would be on my opposite ... and as much as I disagree with their communistic atheistic beliefs... I would not be able to shoot them.
18 posted on 08/22/2017 2:50:32 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Trump20162020

My bad...

I was thinking of this one:

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/08/new_confederate_monument_to_be.html


19 posted on 08/22/2017 2:52:56 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: Just mythoughts
I have visited the National Military Park in Chickamauga, Georgia, it was quite sobering what this nation went through in the civil war. Grave after grave after grave...

I was just there this weekend. I'm a big ol' boy, and I fancy myself a tough guy... but I had tears as I took that tour. Real tears. Especially to think that the civil war is starting all over again. Haven't our forebears bled enough? God help us all.

20 posted on 08/22/2017 2:58:40 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Trump won; I celebrated; I'm good. Let's get on with the civil war now.)
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