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Who Was Really at Fault in Charlottesville?
American Greatness ^ | August 16, 2017 | Conrad Black

Posted on 08/17/2017 2:06:16 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Almost everything about the Charlottesville riot was disgraceful except the conduct of the president. The move to take down the statue of General Robert E. Lee was nonsense. Lee has few rivals as the greatest general in American history (Grant, Sherman, MacArthur, and Eisenhower perhaps). He opposed the secession of Virginia from the Union but, as was common in the South then (and has not entirely died out in any region of the United States today),believed he owed his first loyalty to his state over the United States. He was less dedicated to the virtues of slavery than was Charlottesville’s most famous son, Thomas Jefferson, founder of the University, neighbor at Monticello, and, of course, author of the self-evident truth “that all men are created equal.”

This terrible incident started as a reasonable civic demonstration by Southern traditionalists who were not hostile to African-Americans but object to the shamed renunciation of a great American heroic and folkloric figure from “Gone With the Wind,” to The Band’s “The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down,” to “The Dukes of Hazzard.” Robert E. Lee was not a precursor of Bull Connor, Strom Thurmond, James Earl Ray, or the unreformed George C. Wallace.

These original local groups did not wish or seek the attention of the Ku Klux Klan, or the American Nazis or the violent hooligans who appeared in strength flaunting vivid racist symbolism, who were the most remarkable feature in Saturday’s tragic events. As the day approached, it became clear that the other side of the issue, whose core was reasonable townspeople who put the ultimate fact that the Civil War was fought to suppress an insurrection and to promote at least the gradual elimination of slavery above the gallantry of the Confederate Army, was being reinforced by more militant leftist organizations. Antifa, which purports to find fascists at every position of authority in the United States, Black Lives Matter (whose name suggests that any sane person had ever said otherwise), and other far-left groups with a propensity to violence, made no secret that they too would be there.

As the day unfolded, it was clear that orders had been given to the local police to ensure that a serious fracas occurred. The police did nothing to disperse the armed groups on each side, on several occasions herded them toward each other to encourage combat, and then withdrew at times to facilitate the violence. It must be assumed that orders for an insufficient law enforcement and ineffectual rules of engagement emanated ultimately from the governor of Virginia, Terry McAuliffe, the ne plus ultra of Clintonian zeal and cynicism, and former Democratic Party chairman.

The debacle ensued; the peaceful majorities on both sides were shouldered aside by the violent thugs on the extremes, with the Klansmen and neo-nazis being more vocal and recognizable by their signs and costumes. Since one of their number appears to have been responsible for the (mercifully) sole fatality, the white supremacists and neo-nazis seem to have been the more violent group. But the entire incident had almost nothing to do with the issue of what should happen to Charlottesville’s statue of General Lee, (who would have been as disgusted as we are by the extremists of both sides).

President Trump’s comments on Saturday, Sunday, and Monday were accurate and appropriate, and as usual the national media either eagerly grasped the flame-thrower handed them by the professed Nazi demonstrators and accused the president of mollycoddling David Duke and the Klan (who were very aggrieved by Trump’s chastisement of them on Saturday), or they were gulled by the anti-Trump spin of the media and Virginia officials into condemning the president for ambivalence between Klansmen and Nazis on one side, and decent advocates of racial equality on the other, as if any such clear confrontation of wrong with right had occurred.

Virginia’s U.S. senators, Tim Kaine and Mark Warner, are as rabidly partisan as McAuliffe, and the Virginia authorities, local, state, and national, have a hand in this outrage. Kaine thinks Jared Kushner might be guilty of treason and Warner thinks Trump really might have organized the golden shower of urinating prostitutes in Moscow.

The facts of Charlottesville should be ascertained by impartial investigation, prosecution, and exposure, and Attorney General Jeff Sessions has promised they will be.

This incident is of a piece with the mindless violence at Berkeley and other university campuses. The nihilists and anarchists of both sides want bloody conflict and vandalism, and most of the Democrats and the anti-Trump Republicans and the national media are trying to pin the phenomenon on Trump. This became clear as the weekend unfolded, explaining Trump’s calibrated escalation of anti-racist comments.

We have come full circle. In the absence of any positive argument to vote Democratic last year, the Clinton campaign accused Trump of misogyny and racism. That failed and evaporated and was replaced in post-electoral denial by the Russian collusion nonsense. With the end of visible White House disorganization following staff changes, and after a cameo appearance of Trump the alleged Korea-warmonger last week, we are back to Trump the friend of the Klan, Obama’s infamous campaign charge.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts this week claimed the leadership of the Democrats; they are close to becoming a far-Left party, in likely fulfilment of the Obama plan, which had to be partly concealed to ensure Obama’s reelection. Donald Trump is a policy moderate, but an activist enemy of gridlock.

The campaign of defamation against Trump will fail, and if the Democrats and pseudo-Republicans don’t get to higher ground soon, Trump will pull together the responsible Right and most of the center and wax the Warren Democrats by a margin that will make the Nixon and Reagan reelections look like photo-finishes.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: antifa; charlottesville; conradblack; crime; neonazis; trump; trumpwasright; virginia; vsp
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To: JBW1949

Surprised that a warrant for their arrests have not come out after what has happened ladt weekend.


61 posted on 08/17/2017 4:53:40 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: editor-surveyor

Is there any evidence that Soros funded unite the right? I’d like to pass it on if you know of any.


62 posted on 08/17/2017 5:06:46 PM PDT by bankwalker (Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.)
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To: bankwalker

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I guess you’re just not paying attention.
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63 posted on 08/17/2017 5:12:24 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

I am paying attention.

I am looking for evidence, something I can show someone when they ask me to prove it.


64 posted on 08/17/2017 5:19:49 PM PDT by bankwalker (Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.)
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To: bankwalker

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L58T2dl997A&t=1399s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6byv-tKftms&t=22s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjg3joKXfqc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCyHrH0ot2w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhPG3SXOMco

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCfOsXPOCjM


65 posted on 08/17/2017 5:22:49 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: bankwalker

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CWP4gJy4-c&t=113s
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66 posted on 08/17/2017 5:25:30 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: JBW1949

Yep, and Stonewall Jackson.


67 posted on 08/17/2017 5:29:40 PM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
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To: WVMnteer

The entire event was organized online by Richard Spencer.
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So all we have to do to justify baninng a protest, and violence against a speaker, is to identify the speaker as somebody who has made some outrageous ststements in the past? If Spencer wants to speak against assaulting and discriminating against white people, that something we can support.


68 posted on 08/17/2017 5:55:57 PM PDT by Socon-Econ
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To: editor-surveyor

Thanks. I’ll check them out.


69 posted on 08/17/2017 5:59:00 PM PDT by bankwalker (Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.)
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To: grobdriver
This may have been brought up but I am posting a link just in case it has not been seen here on Free Republic.

Crowd Hire for $25.00 an hour in Charlotte. Article from ZeroHedge: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-16/why-was-crowd-hire-company-recruiting-25-hour-political-activists-charlotte-last-wee

70 posted on 08/17/2017 6:05:44 PM PDT by Bronzy (CNN Fake News)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The dead girl can clearly be seen attacking the vehicle and bashing rear Windows in with a club.

I can’t speak to anything that happened prior to that, but I can say this. If some mob surrounds my wife’s far and starts bashing in the Windows, I have instructed her to kill the shit out of every last one of them.


71 posted on 08/17/2017 6:09:45 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: grobdriver
Who hired Crowds on Demand? Did Jason Kessler hire them?

Did they play the KKK role or the Antifa role? Or both?


https://charlotte.craigslist.org/tfr/d/actors-and-photographers/6253305119.html

72 posted on 08/17/2017 6:38:39 PM PDT by Ray76 (Republicans are a Democrat party front group.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; Clintonfatigued; AuH2ORepublican

NAZI’s and KKK, objectively speaking, are criminals. Yet, what they do is a constitutional right now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_America_v._Village_of_Skokie#Effect_of_the_decision

John Stevens was the deciding vote as he joined Brennan, Marshall, Blackmun and Powell in favor of Nazis.

So who is to blame? Ford? Nixon? Liberal Court strikes again.

Judge in this case was a Bush judge
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/08/11/charlottesville-braces-itself-yet-another-white-nationalist-rally-saturday/560829001/


73 posted on 08/17/2017 7:07:37 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (Committee to Re-Elect the President ( CREEP ))
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To: cynwoody

Yes the mayor and the governor wanted to take advantage of the problem with Saul Alinsky’s “Never let a crisis go to waste” and it would be something to blame on Trump and they knew the media would play along.
But as to James Field’s “strange reverse car terrorist attack” where someone first gave his car a whack when he was driving slow, then there’s a short video where Field’s hits his brakes as he comes up to a large group of people. After that something must have spooked him as he then hit the gas. Then later if he hadn’t hit reverse in 5 more seconds would have been too late for him.


74 posted on 08/17/2017 7:31:01 PM PDT by jacob allen
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To: All

This is what I’m hearing went down and from several other sources:

http://yournewswire.com/charlottesville-inside-job/

The leftists did this same tactic during Trump’s campaign and inauguration. The police are told to funnel conservatives into the mob of leftists.

I’ve read that the accused perp driver in VA is a diagnosed schizophrenic. Has the MSM reported that?

Muslim attacker the MSM says, “Lone wolf. Mental problems. Isolated incident. Nothing to do with religion or ideology.”

For this ‘right wing attack’ photos appear the same day of accused perp at the site and he’s posting pro Trump stuff online.

Seems all too pat.

But regardless, the MSM says this incident is indicative of the entire conservative movement and all Republicans.

I think the info at the link above is legit and this was an orchestrated event as the Russian Conspiracy Theory was unraveling. Both THE NATION and leftist SALON reported the DNC hack was an inside job. So they had to move onto something new.


75 posted on 08/17/2017 7:42:27 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

“We [Charlotesville police] were ordered to bring the rival groups together. As soon as they were in contact with each other, we were told to stand down. It was outrageous. We weren’t allowed to arrest anyone without asking the mayor first. We weren’t even allowed to stop the driver as he sped away.“

“The event was being set up as far back as at least May and it went like clockwork.”

Michael Signer, the mayor of Charlottesville ordered police to stand down during the most chaotic and destructive period of the protests – despite police protests against the orders.

“We wanted to do our job and keep the peace. But these mother******s in charge really want to destroy America.”

Fox News reporter Doug McKelway was on the scene in Charlottesville and he backs up the police officer’s claims.

“I can say, having been in Emancipation Park from early on that morning, that what I saw with my own two eyes confirms what this law enforcement source told us.

Michael Signer is a Virginia Democratic activist with close ties to Barack Obama and John Podesta. Before landing the Charlottesville mayor job he previously worked closely with Podesta at the Center of American Progress and worked with him again on Barack Obama’s State Department Transition Team.

Obama, Podesta, Soros, Clinton and company, are pulling out all the stops to create division through chaos and destruction. Crowds of paid protestors and useful psychopaths are being sent into pitched battle against one another to sour the mood of the nation and further divide us all.

There were more false flags under Obama’s regime than any other President.

The man accused of being a neo-Nazi and murdering a woman by deliberately driving into her during protests in Charlottesville is in reality a supporter of Hillary Clinton and member of Antifa in receipt of funding by George Soros.

White supremacist and ‘Unite the Right’ leader, Jason Kessler, has been exposed as a supporter of former President Obama and the a hardline member of far-left Occupy movement.

If you think that is suspicious, wait until you learn about the other actors in this enormous set-up event.

First man on the scene

Brennan Gilmore was “on the scene” and was the author of the first viral tweet about Charlottesville. He was later interviewed by MSNBC. He was presented as an accidental witness. But who is he really?

Gilmore worked in Africa as a State Department foreign officer under Hillary Clinton. The New York Times mentioned this “coincidence” – and then later deleted it. Brennan Gilmore was also involved with the Kony hoax in 2012, and he is currently Chief of Staff for Tom Perrielo, who is running for Governor of Virginia and received $380k from George Soros.


76 posted on 08/17/2017 7:44:45 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Everybody is wrong here. As you know it was Trump who organized the Nazis and drove the car. Then he had the CIA put that kid in the driver’s seat who was drugged by Bannon.After that he still had time to beat up some of those real nice antifa people.


77 posted on 08/17/2017 7:46:50 PM PDT by HighSierra5
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To: TigerClaws
The page you linked to contains some good information about the police behavior and the confirmation of it by the Fox News reporter.

But then it goes on to say:

The man accused of being a neo-Nazi and murdering a woman by deliberately driving into her during protests in Charlottesville is in reality a supporter of Hillary Clinton and member of Antifa in receipt of funding by George Soros.

Interestingly, there is no evidence provided to support these claims. It's just thrown out there without any documentation.

In other words, it's the kind of "reporting" that's worthy of the Mainstream Media.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence—or at least evidence.

Therefore, taken as a whole, the story appears to be a mixture of decent reporting to which totally unfounded rumor is appended.

Now, I honestly wouldn't be surprised to find out that this information was factual, but until it's confirmed, it amounts to little more than propaganda.

Having said that, this Jason Kessler character appears to be an obvious plant, presuming that those reporting it aren't erroneously combining information about more than one individual named "Jason Kessler".

If this is indeed some kind of "false flag" or Soros-backed setup or conspiracy, then the Trump administration will get to the bottom of it, and it should severely backfire on those who engineered it.

Hopefully, the Executive and Legislative branches of the federal government contain sufficient numbers of good Americans, combined with adequate resources, to get to the bottom of any such plot.

If such things are being conducted by Soros and his ilk who are assisting him in America, then this will all eventually blow up in the Democrats' faces, "big league".

So the actual truth about the identity of this driver who killed the woman—not tidy, unfounded assertions—would be a good place to start...

78 posted on 08/17/2017 8:11:23 PM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: TigersEye; Whenifhow

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3578235/posts?page=30#30

Good find!!


79 posted on 08/17/2017 8:11:38 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: WildHighlander57; LucyT; GregNH; LS; 2ndDivisionVet; appalachian_dweller; aragorn; ...

PING!!!

Article and comments, esp graphic at #30

Thanks, 2ndDivisionVet & H/T WildHighlander57


80 posted on 08/17/2017 8:15:08 PM PDT by Whenifhow (when, if and how will Obama be gone?)
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