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To: sargon

I noted that one side had a permit and was exercising its constitutionally protected right to free speech.

You replied, “So what?”

What the Hell is that supposed to mean, except that it was okay for the left to deprive them of their civil rights because they are “political garbage?”

You go on to say, “Political garbage is political garbage whether it has a permit or not.”

What is that supposed to mean, except that it’s okay to attack them whether they have a permit or not?

You continue with, “We don’t need any hate in this country—from the left or right.”

That’s the kind of thing I would only expect from a leftist.

We do need hatred from the right—of the left. Unless the right hates leftism enough to fight it, to eradicate it, the left is going to win, because they hate us with the fire of a thousand suns.

But all you do is let them off the hook by characterizing their victims as “haters” and “hate groups.”

No, I’m not lying, and I don’t want you in the next foxhole when the balloon goes up.

BTW, I was first registered here under a different name, so I don’t know if you really have a few weeks on me or not.


216 posted on 08/16/2017 4:12:27 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime "humanity.)
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To: dsc
Suffice it to say that you totally misconstrued what I said if you think I was advocating for curtailing anyone's Free Speech.

When I flippantly said "So what?", I suppose I was referring to the issue of one group having a permit versus another group not having a permit. The right to Peaceably Assemble, last time I checked, doesn't require a permit, of course.

Perhaps I should have been clearer about the fact that no pile of "political garbage"—regardless of whether it's Right or Left, and regardless of whether it's "permitted" or not—has any right to suppress the Free Speech of another group with violence.

But I certainly wasn't wading into the idea of denying anyone's right to Free Speech, which is the accusation I took immediate exception to.

Having said that, I do reiterate my total disdain for these types of groups on the right, especially inasmuch as they seek to be "normalized" by trying to associate with "traditional" conservatives—decent working class people who harbor no racism or hate for anyone—and, additionally, my disdain also extends to the violent Leftist Antifa (LOL!) fascist pigs, and their sympathetic ilk in the Media, who diabolically seek to smear mainstream conservatives and Trump supporters by erroneously associating them with the likes of the haters and provocateurs who actually organized the rally.

The "Unite the Right" rally, IMHO, was a deliberately planned operation, at least partially instigated by the Soros crowd, and intended to smear President Trump and his supporters by associating them with actual hate groups, "plants" like Jason Kessler, provocateurs, and White Supremacist speakers.

Additionally, IMHO, the hate groups on the right—KKK, neo-Nazis, White Supremacists—and associated "speakers" like Richard Spencer—were exploited by these Soros elements, due to a desire to gain legitimacy by being associated with "legitimate" mainstream conservatives and Trump supporters.

The Democrats and Media (but I repeat myself), by willingly participating in this charade, once again confirmed that they are indeed the Enemy of the People—of that there can be no doubt.

Interestingly—and this is of critical importance—the overwhelming majority of the American people are perfectly aware of this attempted manipulation by the Uniparty Swamp. That is why the Propaganda Media—as Newt Gingrich calls it—is unable to effectively manipulate public opinion like it could in the past. That is also why their machinations invariably fail with respect to assassinating the character of both President Trump and his supporters.

The Media simply has no meaningful credibility left, having repeatedly overplayed its hand so grossly as to render itself aught but an occasionally comical—and routinely pathetic—circus sideshow.

Beginning with the 2016 election cycle and the abject failure to install Hillary Clinton in the White House—despite a concerted by the entire Uniparty Establishment—Democrats, GOPe, Media, Intelligentsia, Academia—Donald Trump and his "deplorables" unmasked these entities as malicious, anti-American subversives—exposing them—collectively and completely—as the Enemy of the People.

With their propaganda, lies, character assassination, and demonization of this President and his perfectly decent supporters, they are deliberately pushing this country to the brink of civil war. However, they've failed to think it through: they think We the People will "blink"—but we won't.

And when We the People don't blink, that's when the Enemy's breathtakingly profound miscalculation will become apparent, because if this country does have another civil war, it's going to be very brief and and incredibly lopsided, with the Uniparty Swamp and its benefactors bearing the brunt of the damage.

But I digress...

232 posted on 08/16/2017 7:05:57 PM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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