Posted on 08/05/2017 9:02:24 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
“Moreover they were largely shunned by the rest of us who, in my opinion, were a Greatest Generation II, a fact that is/was highlighted by more than 50,000 of us who gave their all in Vietnam and millions more that were scarred or maimed for life.”
Greatest Generation II ?
You have GOT to be kidding.
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Well at least not before he met Yoko.
I’ve had a couple folks ask me to post the full poem to put it in its proper conquest:
The House of the Future - ©2014 by (((Trevor Patrick)))
Leonard Cohen
was one of the first ones,
to truly understand the nihilism
of Generation X:
when he sang about
the future being murder,
and wondering if people understand
the true meaning of words like repent.
And quoting Charlie Manson
was the absolute pinnacle
of 80s hipster cool,
thanks to folks like Trent Reznor,
telling us we’d been presented with the bill
for our parent’s party
and very soon, that bill was coming due.
Because as fucked-up as Manson is
in his stream-of-consciousness babble,
some of it is nevertheless,
eerily profound;
underneath the rock
that hid peace and love’s ugly underbelly
or the stinking, trash-filled mud
left over by the Monterrey crowds.
And in 1989,
some of us sampled the Woodstock Cherry Garcia,
at least until emo-boy Trent
dropped his Pretty Hate Machine bomb-
and made us understand the TRUE legacy
of the Baby Boomer generation was never Woodstock,
but in actual point of fact,
it was ALWAYS Altamont.
Give someone a peace sign
then turn it around to flip them the bird:
‘Peace, Brother: heres YOUR half -
cause I gots me a corporate sinecure!’
And the more inconvenient truth
that very few talk about,
is that the Manson Family
took things even further still...
by once again showing
that dying for one’s beliefs is both boring and lame,
because the PUREST ideals
are the ones for which you kill.
And those morons that spent the early Nineties
wearing those Charlie Don’t Surf t-shirts
are the Gen X version of the current keffiyeh-wearing
campus useless idiot losers
Because Charlie himself said it best
when he stated in a prison interview, that:
‘Tate-LaBianca is the house of the future.’
Platoon=White Rabbit
Apocalypse Now=The End
The liberals try to portray their time as peace and love but were the ones doing the rioting. Just a bunch of ——— dirty hippies.
Well, let’s be specific on just a few specific points, to wit:
.......do you think it was “greater” for a young man to die on Normandy than it was for another young man to die at Khe Sanh?
.......what event in my mother’s and father’s generation was “greater” than landing Neil Armstrong on the moon in August 1969?
.............was Pearl Harbor “greater” than 911? Thousands upon thousands of mothers and fathers would not agree that the “Greatest Generation” was “greater” than their sons 911 generation.
My mother’s and fathers generation was a Great Generation and by sheer numbers alone (over 400,000 killed in combat) they suffered MORE pain than any other generation.
But, some of my generation (the Vietnam era folks), and many of the 911 generation are not willing to concede that one generations sacrifices were indisputably greater than all other generations if for no other reason than the fact that one mother’s agony is equal to another mother’s agony.
Hope I answered your very valid question. Thanks for responding.
To anyone over 30, the Beatles, with their long hair and wild lyrics, were an outrage. Elvis’ gyrations were straight from the Devil himself.
The guy who wrote this article was probably 2 years old in 1967. He hasn’t got a clue what it was like then.
We were going through the upheaval of the civil rights movement, the economy was crap. When you graduated from college there were no jobs. All of the guys your age were getting sent to a small Asian country to meddle in a civil war similar to that of Syria. Then Dec 1st 1969 try to imagine sitting with all your friends and boyfriend watching some politician draw numbered balls out of a jar that would decide your fate.
Turn on the nightly news tonight and watch from 5:00-7:00 PM. How much bloody war footage will you see? You will see none. In 1967 all you saw every night was war footage on and on. People used to watch just in case they might see their loved ones because you mostly had no clue where they were.
Of course young people were depressed, disillusioned, pizzed off and rebelling. And as usual the communists were there to stir the pot. On campus they were called SDS, students for a Democratic society. Sound familiar? Yeh today they are called Democratic Socialists and social justice warriors.
Sex, drugs and rock and roll were just a way to vent not the problem.
Try to imagine throwing away over 50,000 lives to keep Assad from putting down the rebels. Remember it was not a volunteer military then.
IMO the sixties were nothing g compared to what is happening g now and what is still to come. And the sixties were pretty bad.
There is a huge difference in gays and pretend gays prancing around campus confused about which restroom to use but demanding tampons in the mens room.
The beatles didn’t start with long hair. They were mop heads and wore suits when they performed.m Unlike Elvis many mothers were beetles fans and attended concerts with their daughters.
And then became ‘da man when they had a mortgage and a family to raise.
Dallas, TX has white flight in ‘72 and ‘73. Moronic school district decided to bus black kids to white schools and white kids to black schools. All hell broke loose.
While tampons in the men’s room may be humorous, they are not going to destroy the civilization.
I was there. I know it. I was part of it. Went to Woodstock, sang with rock bands that trashed hotels, wouldn't look at poor Veterans who used their blood to protect this dizzy new freedom (read: dizzy new slavery to hedonism). Went to parties with the cool college profs who smoked dope with the kids and advocated socialism and communism (oh yes, they did indeed) instead of our Republic and that for which it stands.
Our Republic, the first nation in the history of the world to be concerned with the rights of individual. Those profs and subsequently their students soon-thereafter looked down on African-Americans by advocating programs that relieved people of color of the challenge to excel. They convinced kids that Bible is literature without a shred of evidence supporting Wellhausen and his gang... and ruined the sensitive soul impacted so heavily by this garbage. And, I add unabashedly, the soul of women in particular -- who actually had a beef.
(By the way: the hypocrisy of the women’s movement refusing to call it straight when it comes to the subjugation of Muslim women is something to behold.)
That mid-60s generation yet clings to those non-values and runs the country from the local level to the federal, hand in hand with the generation they have taught, and so on--each subsequently more permissive, less willing to hold the individual responsible for his/her actions, and pathetically unable to tell the difference between tolerance and acceptance of the unacceptable.
The United States, constructed by the brilliant minds of the US’s forefathers and built firmly on moral absolutes is the evil culprit. Absolutes? Ha! Wiped out! Morality is subjective.
Wild: anyone can decide what comprises morality. The terrorist and he/she who creeps into our country with no speck of allegiance to the kind of freedom the US Constitution defends are simply misunderstood, aren’t they? Is it so hard to say that a person is here in opposition our laws?
Yes, if you are a so-called idealist or progressive. "Come-on, people now. Smile on each other. Everybody get together, try and love one another..." [Youngbloods, 1967]. Go ahead. Try and love the guys who trashed the Twin Towers and blew arms and legs off at the Boston Marathon. See where it gets you. You know who tried to love them? Daniel Perl. The Jew whom they killed, the same way they'd like to kill every Jew on Planet Earth. Don’t the 2017 crowd, grandchildren of the 1967 crowd get it?
Answer: No.
God is dead, anyway. Long live fact-free opinion—i.e., the comfy bed of the media and the honed tool of the newspapers that, long, long ago, actually reported.
Today’s US Media: the Venus fly-trap bred of mid-sixties' smug educators, arrogant and intolerant students, inverted sexual mores, the perversion of a once-understandable women's movement… It’s a media that consistently and continually editorializes, thus bastardizes, the meaning of the word "reporting." Not many Woodwards and Bernsteins here. And anyone who tries to dig for truth or report it is hamstrung by slurs and made-up stories, or shot.
America, the Beautiful, God shed His light on thee. Please. We need it.
“Hope I answered your very valid question. Thanks for responding.”
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That still doesn’t explain why you consider The Boomers Greatest Generation II.
Most of the heroes of the moon landing were not Greatest Generation or Boomers.
You have a gap in your generations.
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That happens in all religions. I took myself out of Catholic school after 2nd grade. Couldn’t stand the evil nuns. Still attended Catholic Church and catechism on through middle school and continued to see the lies and hate from the priests. Parents made me apply for Catholic high school and the nuns lied throughout the testing. As a CPS worker, one of my worst cases of child abuse was from a Catholic family and the perverted priest. Later on, I was inside another priest’s house and saw very suggestive photos of young men.
No, thanks. I can believe on my own without organized religion. God’s house is better represented out under a tree, imo.
Not a very flattering photo of the Right. We need to disassociate ourselves from this kind of hatred.
Big city USA would have included a gang shooting.
Sir, with all due respect, I think I am being more specific than you are about what my thinking is on the instant subject. So, your turn.
WHY do you think your “Greatest” generation was “better” than all others.
What about the Revolutionary War Generation? If they could speak, they might disagree with you.
What about the Civil War Generation? Same thing.
Most particularly, you seem to ignore the agony of mothers and fathers of one generation being somehow worse than the agony of mothers and fathers of another generation.
On that point alone, I argue there is no difference ergo there is no Greatest Generation at least on that one over arching point.
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