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Fears for undocumented Irish in America over new Trump immigrant proposal
The Irish Examiner ^ | August 4, 2017 | Elaine Loughlin

Posted on 08/03/2017 5:29:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

There are concerns that new US immigration laws will make it more difficult for undocumented Irish to secure visas.

TDs and senators who have been campaigning on behalf of the undocumented Irish in America are worried by new restrictions announced by US President Donald Trump.

While Mr Trump has consistently campaigned against illegal immigration and has pledged to build a wall on the border with Mexico, he has now moved to restrict the number of legal immigrants.

The bill would cut legal immigration by half in the next 10 years and introduce a points-based system prioritising those who speak English, who are well educated, and who can financially support themselves and their families.

Fianna Fáil TD Brendan Smith said a clampdown on legal migrants does not bode well for those already in the US looking to gain legal status.

Mr Smith, who chairs the Oireachtas foreign affairs committee, said: “We understand that there are up to 50,000 undocumented Irish who want to have their status recognised. That situation will be even more difficult if President Trump introduces further restrictions around immigration.”

Mr Smith said he and other politicians are continuously contacted by the families of those living in the US who are unable to travel home for celebrations, weddings, or funerals.

He pointed out that Barack Obama, Mr Trump’s predecessor who had wanted to progress the rights of the undocumented, had failed during his term and campaigners are now fighting an uphill battle.

Labour senator Aodhán Ó Ríordáin said: “I think we should be worried about this, not just what it means for the Irish but what it means for every nationality in the States.

“We should be particularly concerned about the culture of fear it is causing. People have been left a little bit more uneasy and scared.

“You don’t know whether this has been genuinely thought through or if it’s just a distraction from other issues that he is having. It’s always a question you have to ask with this administration.”

Mr Ó Ríordáin said he had recently travelled to the US and met with a number of undocumented Irish. “There is now a huge element of fear and of retreating into the shadows.”

He aid the legislation would not impact Irish as much as other non-English speaking nationals, but added it was a worrying development overall.

Backing the legislation, which was introduced by two Republican senators, Mr Trump said: “This competitive application process will favour applicants who can speak English, financially support themselves and their families, and demonstrate skills that will contribute to our economy.

“They’re not going to come in and just immediately collect welfare.”

Mr Trump said the new law would help US workers by reducing the number of low-paid, foreign workers and would raise wages.

Fianna Fáil senator Mark Daly said: “The atmosphere in the US does not appear conducive to getting rights for the undocumented.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; crime; immigration; ireland; irish
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1 posted on 08/03/2017 5:29:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Irish can go home and fix their own country just like any other criminal who is here illegally.


2 posted on 08/03/2017 5:33:27 PM PDT by Seruzawa (FABOL)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have to think about this...not the numbers....the criteria...


3 posted on 08/03/2017 5:33:40 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
While I have a fond spot for the Irish people, if you are illegally in the USA, get the hell out.


4 posted on 08/03/2017 5:33:54 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good. Aliens illegally present in this country should be worried.


5 posted on 08/03/2017 5:34:08 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC)z)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“We understand that there are up to 50,000 undocumented Irish who want to have their status recognised.”

Their status is “illegal alien” and this is what recognition of that status looks like. Bye, enjoy your potatoes.


6 posted on 08/03/2017 5:34:33 PM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Give Ireland back to the Irish.


7 posted on 08/03/2017 5:35:31 PM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh hell, the Irish, too!

8 posted on 08/03/2017 5:36:05 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (The UK has no death penalty, unless you are an 11 month old infant with no arrest history)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So the Irish are going to Mexico then sneaking across our southern border. Or they swam the great pond into New York..


9 posted on 08/03/2017 5:36:12 PM PDT by Davy Crocket
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If you’re here illegally you can GTFO, I don’t care where you’re from.


10 posted on 08/03/2017 5:36:14 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (In God We Trust, In Trump We Fix America)
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11 posted on 08/03/2017 5:37:12 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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“prioritising those who speak English, who are well educated, and who can financially support themselves and their families.”

Madness...utter madness.

L


12 posted on 08/03/2017 5:39:34 PM PDT by Lurker (America burned the witch.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Those people should check out what other countries do to illegals especially Mexico.


13 posted on 08/03/2017 5:40:01 PM PDT by SkyDancer (You know they invented wheelbarrows to teach FAA inspectors to walk on their hind legs.)
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This competitive application process will favour applicants who can speak English, financially support themselves and their families, and demonstrate skills that will contribute to our economy.

Well now. We Irish speak a very close approximation to English, and the amount we drink definitely contributes to the economy. In fact, our drinking accounts for a large portion of the GNP. Aye!

14 posted on 08/03/2017 5:41:14 PM PDT by Robwin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah, but they’re white, and therefore by definition evil, privileged oppressors, so why would they care?


15 posted on 08/03/2017 5:44:33 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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Irish girls are usually not guilty and should be allowed to stay.


16 posted on 08/03/2017 5:45:11 PM PDT by duckworth (Perhaps instant karma's going to get you. Perhaps not.)
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To: Sirius Lee

If you’re here illegally you can GTFO, I don’t care where you’re from.

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I might vote to exempt naturally blond Swedish women of a certain age.


17 posted on 08/03/2017 5:46:03 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.)
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“laws will make it more difficult for undocumented Irish to secure visas.”

Uh... yeah. That’s the point. Do they think they’re special?


18 posted on 08/03/2017 5:48:13 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("Negative people make healthy people sick." - Roger Ailes)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tough shite. If you’re here illegally, GTFO!! I don’t give a rat’s tush whether you’re from central/south America, Ireland or frikkin’ Monaco. You have NO RIGHT to be here.


19 posted on 08/03/2017 5:48:14 PM PDT by LIConFem
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To: Seruzawa

DITTO


20 posted on 08/03/2017 5:48:27 PM PDT by onona (Stop stonewalling Judicial Watch and release the documents)
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