Posted on 07/31/2017 7:43:09 PM PDT by Loyalist
After a 911 call for unknown trouble, officers arrive and find a man in distress, wielding some kind of object.
Three words, known to those in law enforcement as the "police challenge," pierce the morning air. "Drop your weapon!"
Seconds later, gunshots.
It's an all-too-familiar scenario at coroner's inquests in Canada, according to some mental health experts. This week, a jury in Ontario is expected to reveal a list of recommendations that are supposed to give police the tools to respond effectively to civilians in crisis.
The recommendations come after a weeks-long inquest into the fatal police shooting of Michael MacIsaac, a man who, four years ago, ran naked through a suburban Ajax neighbourhood on a cold December morning following a physical confrontation involving his wife and sister at their home.
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Jennifer Chambers, one of 18 witnesses who testified at the inquest, is executive director of the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health-funded Empowerment Council. The organization has long advocated for improved training for frontline officers who may encounter many different shades of mental illness on the job.
Chambers has made her case at more than 10 different police shooting inquests, including the one for 45-year-old Andrew Loku earlier this month, and says she's noticed some common themes.
"The police see somebody holding something they find threatening and they give the police challenge When the person doesn't drop it, they just keep yelling," Chambers told CBC Toronto ahead of the release of the jury's recommendations.
Instead, she would like to see officers first ask: "What's going on? Can I help you? Is there something we can do? Let's talk."
(Excerpt) Read more at cbc.ca ...
Incidentally, this is a picture of the man just before he was shot, running naked in December through his neighbourhood:
So the bank robber could have the cop carry the bags of money to get get-away car?
LOL!!!
No....
ROTFLMAO!!!!
Rock hard stupid.
I hate the CBC.
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Why not “let’s hug”?
Somebody has been watching “Demolition Man”
“What seems to be your boggle?”
She needs to conduct her own study on how well that works with deranged drug-hyped criminals running naked towards her, then report back to us if she’s still alive.
Anyone who has owned a TV has seen a cop show. Which means they’ve heard the Miranda Rights. Anything I say can and will be used against me, blah, blah, blah.
The police still say this to anyone they arrest, although everyone has heard it a thousand times.
Likewise, anyone with an IQ above 50 knows that the police do not like to deal with someone holding a weapon. They will ask you to drop your weapon. If you do not drop it, they will shoot you.
Who doesn’t know this?
Finding an “alternative approach” seems like a waste of time.
Oops...left out the first part.
“Mellow greetings sir. What seems to be your boggle?”
“Let’s blow this guy.”
Yeah. Hold still while I kill you.
Forget that . . .
They could “Be Well” him so that he might have a “Joy-Joy Day!”
(That movie was so prophetic on so many levels...)
Allan turned around to ask a witness a question, and the driver pulled a gun. He shot Allan 14 times, eventually killing him.
Some people are just out to kill, and it doesn't matter how helpful and calm you are to them.
Afraid of the naked guy? WTF was he holding?
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Perp: "Yeah, can you stand right where you are, so I can get a bead on ya?"
I’m pretty certain some officers do that already, when it appears that the subject is unfocused and not making much eye contact. Some folks can be convinced not to make a bad situation that much worse by resisting arrest. However, the moment the subject does engage and looks to present an escalating danger, all bets are off.
Some people will only be further inflamed by any attempt at any dialog with a police officer, especially those who proclaim their hatred of any and all cops. So this tactic is risky.
Canadians. Geez. The minute the weather turns, they get weird.
I have no problem with a cop yelling “Drop your weapon!”.
But I do have a problem with one cop yelling “Drop your weapon!” while a second one yells “Hands up!” while a third one yells “Get down on the ground!” Obey one command, and get shot by the two cops you didn’t obey.
I witnessed an incident like that (luckily, it did not involved a weapon, and no one was shot). But different cops were yelling different commands, and the subject kinda froze as he didn’t know who to obey.
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