Posted on 07/28/2017 5:01:25 AM PDT by from occupied ga
Obamacare, like almost everything the government is in charge of, is undoubtedly a disaster and needs to be repealed. Why should it be replaced with anything?
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Compare health insurance with car insurance. If you feel you are an incredibly safe driver and choose not to have any, or adequate, insurance, what happens if you are in a serious and costly collision? It certainly isn't the responsibility of the government to bail you out for your poor choice. And if you try, after this costly collision, to increase your auto insurance or get insurance, you will probably find yourself in a high-risk pool paying incredible amounts of money. No one expects the American taxpayers to pay for your poor decisions. So why should the American taxpayers pay for your poor medical decisions? They shouldn't.
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Have you noticed that none of the Republican “replacement” options would eliminate the Death Panels? Nobody is even talking about that. There has been a total media blackout on it. Even Fox won’t cover it!
I think she’s off base on a lot of things in the article except one; there is nothing that the government can do concerning health care insurance that will not make the matter worse. So the GOP should repeal Obamacare completely, explain to the voters that it was a disaster to begin with and that they will be working with the insurance industry to allow them to develop insurance options that will provide better coverage options at a cheaper cost.
The problem is that “nothing” would be a free-market system in health care, but repealing Ocare does not give us a free market. It leaves us with the buggered up marked created by all the other health care legislation and regulation that is on the books.
True, but the cleanup process has to start somewhere. What better place to start than the absolute worst?
Obama gave exemptions to millions. Couldn’t Trump give exemptions to EVERYONE? Wouldn’t that effectively shut down this nonsense?
True. I'm really tired of mouthy a$$holes who are too lazy and too cowardly to steal for themselves demanding that the government do it for them.
It is said that slavery ended with the emancipation proclamation, but If I work five months of the year for the benefit of someone else how is this not slavery?
The US government doesn’t belong in the INS business
This nation survived over 200 years without government healthcare...now all of the sudden getting rid of it would be the end of the world.
One of the earlier poster mentioned that the free sh!t army would go bananas if any of their pipelines into the wallets of those of us who work for a living got cut.
Why should somebody be placed into indentured servitude with legal compulsion to provide other people these "rights"? Our Founding Fathers knew better and would be running for their muskets!
Obviously, our current rulers and their willing parasitic voters think otherwise but they hold the political power.
“Why should I pay for someone else’s health care?”
To cleanse our national conscience, we need to offer a base level of healthcare for everyone. You wouldn’t object to my “base healthcare” plan but it be way too stingy to become law.
I don’t believe we need any national health care program as long as we continue Medicare, making sure at least most of the employee contributions go to that fund and not the general fund.
Then provide a reasonable safety net for the poor, including the low wage working segment, a non-tax fund for catastrophic cases, and the freedom for any insurance company to service across any state line.
Further, the safety net for the poor has gotten out of hand and is more than a Cadillac plan. It needs to be scaled back to more of a Chevrolet plan.
At this moment, IMO, Medicaid insurance is the best in the nation, far better than mine, and I have a good one.
Get rid of Obamacare and set us free.
Huh? WTF is a "national conscience?" I can guarantee my conscience wouldn't be bothered in the least by my not paying for someone else's healthcare. By paying for the things that people OUGHT to pay for themselves we're simply subsidizing their lifestyle by letting them spend on luxuries. In short you're taking stuff from me (and you) so that someone else can buy beer, pot, cigarettes, lotto tickets and fast food. "Whenever someone receives something without working for it someone else has to work for it without receiving anything."
You wouldn’t object to my “base healthcare” plan but it be way too stingy to become law.
If it's anything but a pool like an uninsured motorist pool that has to be reimbursed, then I would object to it. I get real full of objections when people take my hard earned dollars and use them to buy stuff for other people.
“WTF is a “national conscience?”
It’s like this: it is inhuman to let someone suffer and die due to a medical condition they can’t afford to treat.
If the more affluent help poor people, they are being charitable. It’s a good thing.
Our welfare systems are the result of our national conscience and the thought that “I could be that person someday”.
The uniqueness of medical care is that its cost, unlike the cost of food, housing, childcare, etc., is bankbreakingly astronomical.
So, we can’t afford to give everyone Obamacare’s level of healthcare, but we don’t want people dying mercilessly.
Admit it. There is such a thing as a conscience.
I’m heading for Medishare... Both replace bills had billions of taxpayer dollars in direct payments. Medishare is galt.
the Democrat “base” of government/public sector workers, immigrants & the poor/disabled bore no cost for Obamacare..which had nothing to do with making “care” more affordable, & did nothing to make insurance more affordable for most people....& failed miserably in the other direction. People are paying fines because they cannot afford to buy the insurance, so it becomes a huge, punitive, regressive tax on the middle class people working in the private sector..which bore all the costs of Obamacare. So these people are paying fines & still don’t have insurance....& their fines are going to public sector workers & to fund freebies for the Democrat base of unwed deadbeat mothers and such.
Yeah, what do a bunch of dead, white, slave-holders know?
It’s like this: it is inhuman to let someone suffer and die due to a medical condition they can’t afford to treat.
This is your OPINION, not a fact, and others have differing opinions. For example do you consider it inhumane to rob someone at gunpoint? If I'm sick and "can't" afford treatment does this give me the right to rob someone to pay for my treatment? I'd say no, but forcing taxpayers to support medical treatment for those who don't work or simply didn't save any money for a rainy day is EXACTLY that.
And before you trot out the old wheeze about "it's for the children" So what? Does someone else's having productive sex give them an instant pipeline into my hard earned assets? Again I'd say no. Now if you're talking about VOLUNTARY charitable contributions, I'll agree with you, but medical care isn't a right any more than a flat screen TV, a car, food, or a vacation is a right. These are all commodities that must be earned.
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If the more affluent help poor people, they are being charitable. It’s a good thing.
I'll agree IF the help is voluntary. If they're being forced to pay via taxes then this is armed robbery and not a good thing at all
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Our welfare systems are the result of our national conscience and the thought that “I could be that person someday”.
That is totally false. Our welfare system is all about buying votes with our money to keep politicians in power. It has nothing to do with your statement. Only someone who has lived their life in another universe could actually believe that.
The uniqueness of medical care is that its cost, unlike the cost of food, housing, childcare, etc., is bankbreakingly astronomical.
Again so what? Ferraris are extremely expensive; does this mean that we should be on the hook to provide Ferraris for those who can't afford them? Without getting into the fact that the costs are so high BECAUSE of government meddling in the system and substituting coersion for the free market.
Admit it. There is such a thing as a conscience.
Oh there is conscience, but it is an individual thing. It isn't collective any more than there is a "collective" in the socialist worldview. AND this conscience thing seems to be one way. you are all worried about people who are unable (or in many cases unwilling because they think falsely that it IS a right) to pay for health care, but you have no conscience foe those who are FORCED to pay for someone else. I'll quite for now with a quote frin Dr Adrian Rogers. "For everyone who receives something without working, there is someone else who works without receiveing." Working without receiving is the definition of slavery, and does your conscience condone slavery?
You pay for roads other people use, and fire departments, police, etc. is that robbery? No. It is how a civilization works. We decide that certain services should be provided for the public good.
Roads etc are used or at least can be used by all. Health care is something like a flat screen TV - it only benefits the individual. Your analogy is false.
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