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Investigation Reveals Navy At Fault For Massive USS Fitzgerald Collision
dailycaller.com ^ | 7/21/2017 | Jonah Bennett

Posted on 07/21/2017 10:42:18 AM PDT by rktman

A preliminary investigation into the collision of the USS Fitzgerald and a Philippine cargo ship in June has revealed that the U.S. Navy is at fault.

According to two defense officials who spoke with CNN, the crew aboard the USS Fitzgerald made numerous abysmal mistakes which led to the collision with the ACX Crystal in an area known for commercial shipping.

The investigation is likely to result in recommendations for possible punishment, making the review “dual purpose.”

“They did nothing until the last second,” one official said, speaking of the crew on the Arleigh Burke-class destroyer. “A slew of things went wrong.”

The second official stated that the crash “will wind up being our fault.”

Initial findings suggest that the Fitzgerald crew not only did not acknowledge the ship was approaching, but sailors also failed to perform their duties in order to stop the impact, which left a large gash in the side of the destroyer measuring about 200 feet.

The collision on June 17, which occurred 56 miles off the coast of Japan, resulted in the deaths of seven U.S. Navy sailors.

The findings up to this point will be sent to 7th Fleet Commander Vice Admiral Joseph Aucoin for review.

Aucoin has already stated the day after the collision that the damage to the Fitzgerald is major.

“The ship suffered severe damage rapidly flooding three large compartments that included one machine room and two berthing areas for 116 crew, ” Aucoin said. “The commanding officer’s cabin was also directly hit, trapping the CO inside.”

The Fitzgerald has undergone extensive repairs since the incident, but will have to return to a U.S. shipyard for full repairs. Pacific Fleet Commander Adm. Scott Swift is looking for a ship to take over the work of the Fitzgerald in the meantime.

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TOPICS: Government; Japan; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: collision; maritime; sad; usn; usnavy; ussfitzgerald
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To: rktman

Radar Operator, Officer of the deck sanding watch, radioman, helmsman, CIC, a bunch of people not just one screwed the pooch. The freighter radioed the Fitzgerald, the radar operator and Combat Information Center (CIC) in the dark bowels of the ship should have detected the approaching vessel, all traffic in the lanes should have been monitored, once the ship was approaching all reverse or flank speed to avoid the intersect course and immediate course correction to port should have been ordered. Basic seamanship stuff were asleep at the con.


81 posted on 07/21/2017 3:18:03 PM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: SauronOfMordor
Did you check the source they linked to ? We have that technology, and it's operational, and was proved effective on October 22, 2012.

Do you know about CHAMP and its capabilities ?

82 posted on 07/21/2017 3:22:22 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: gaijin

Was reading about a man missing off of a Hawaii island, happened many years ago.

He and friends were out on some kind of catamaran or something and disappeared. They disappeared in an area where the Navy was having target practice, shooting at objects that were similar in size and shape to the catamaran.

After the disappearance, Navy would not let anyone into the area where the people went missing.

And, a few years after that, I think, the Navy actually shot a ship passing through the area, accidentally.


83 posted on 07/21/2017 3:28:04 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: LonePalm
What part of CBDR (Constant Bearing, Decreasing Range) did they NOT understand?
I learned “Constant Bearing Means Collision” in HS math class. ‘Course it could mean the opposite - if the range is increasing. Which would be pretty much excluded as a possibility if the magnitude of the bearing from the faster ship to the slower one is .GE. 90 degrees off the bow . . .

84 posted on 07/21/2017 3:49:14 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (A press can be “associated,” or a press can be independent. Demand independent presses.)
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To: SauronOfMordor
Watch these videos :
85 posted on 07/21/2017 4:35:08 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: rlmorel; UCANSEE2

200 FEET? Where?


86 posted on 07/21/2017 4:38:58 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's alias. "Islam": Allah's assassins"; "Moderate Muslims": Islam's useful idiots.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Attention to detail is one of the slices, perhaps the one with the most holes.


87 posted on 07/21/2017 4:43:43 PM PDT by Gamecock ("We always choose according to our greatest inclination at the moment." R.C. Sproul)
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To: Gamecock

I was thinking vigilance, which admittedly subsumes attention to detail.


88 posted on 07/21/2017 4:47:25 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Psephomancers for Hillary!)
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To: Yosemitest
Except that the Crystal DID have it's transponder on.

There was another ship (Wan Hai 266) in the area who's transponder was only transmitting intermittently.

89 posted on 07/21/2017 5:00:04 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: SauronOfMordor

90 posted on 07/21/2017 5:17:10 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest
Take Florida Maquis' videos with a HUGE grain of salt.

I have repeatedly ripped him for unwarranted speculation.

FReepmail me for my YouTube name if you are interested.

"Ceterum censeo Islam esse delendam."

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

91 posted on 07/21/2017 5:18:26 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: deport

Yep. That’s what did the damage. Almost like the old ramming prows on a Roman trireme.


92 posted on 07/21/2017 5:30:47 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
There are experts in the Navy and retired Navy that question whether that other ships might have use the assigned transponder code of the ACX Crystal, causing the sudden jumps in its position on the secondary radar track,
"Florida Maquis" has a lot of very good information about this on his YouTube Channel. THIS WAS A COORDINATED ATTACK on the USS Fitzgerald !
93 posted on 07/21/2017 6:18:03 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: TXnMA; UCANSEE2

I saw that too, but I suspect it was something like 200 square feet. Obviously, if it were a rectangle 17x12, that would be different, but I suspect the 17 at the widest point tapering off, etc.

I don’t have high expectations for the media to get anything right, especially when it comes to military matters.


94 posted on 07/21/2017 6:26:16 PM PDT by rlmorel (Donald Trump: Making Liberal Heads Explode 140 Characters At A Time.)
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To: LonePalm
Based on what I know about transponders, primary radar, secondary radar, satellite radar, and aircraft, he seems to be fairly knowledgable to me.
But my expertise is Air Traffic Control, and mostly in the tower.
But I have some radar experience, and I've been in several Air Route Traffic Control Centers, Terminal Radar Air Traffic Control Facilities, Radar Approach Controls, Ground Control Approach Facilities and many ... many Control Towers.
95 posted on 07/21/2017 6:30:49 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest
And there is someone who has seen the data showing where the ships were and knows that the Crystal was always visible.

Now the Wan Hai 266 which was on a parallel course with the Crystal did have have a transponder that kept cutting out making the ship appear to "jump".

Was the Fitzgerald concentrating on the Wan Hai 266 to the extent that they completely overlooked the Crystal?

It certainly makes a lot more sense than trying to say the Crystal was not transmitting when it was and that it was attacked by some sort of targeted EMP that somehow did not touch any other ship in the area.

96 posted on 07/21/2017 6:35:49 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: Yosemitest
I'm not sure if Florida Maquis could fine his butt with a map, flashlight, both hands, and a GPS receiver.

I am NOT impressed with his wild conspiracy theories.

He extrapolates so far beyond his data that they aren't in the same time zone.

"Ceterum censeo Islam esse delendam."

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

97 posted on 07/21/2017 7:24:24 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: rktman
the U.S. Navy is at fault.

Destroyers and massive cargo ships are not made to be meet together, even for an instant, any more than those of the same gender are sexually. Having sanctioned the latter it is flitting that the Navy realized the former. But at least it realizes that mismatch is wrong.

98 posted on 07/21/2017 7:25:00 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + folllow Him)
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To: IronJack
"It looks to me like all the damage to the container ship was high up on its bow. Where did the waterline damage to the Fitz come from? Is the civilian vessel a bottlenose hull?"


99 posted on 07/21/2017 7:29:33 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's alias. "Islam": Allah's assassins"; "Moderate Muslims": Islam's useful idiots.)
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To: TXnMA
There is more to it than that.
There is a "Damage Alignment Problem" to address.
100 posted on 07/21/2017 7:54:20 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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