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GOP Drops Tax Cuts for Big Earners in Revised Health Bill, Sources Say (GOPe KEEPS Obamacare taxes!)
Bloomberg ^ | July 11, 2017 | Laura litvan and Steven Dennis

Posted on 07/11/2017 12:53:59 PM PDT by Alter Kaker

Edited on 07/12/2017 1:49:23 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: kingu

If people lived with better health habits, costs would drop by 3/4. When I came back to the States from a vacation in SE Asia, the first shock was how many fat people are here compared to SE Asia. Then add the alcohol consumption, smoking, etc.

In last 5 years, only doctor visit I needed was when I sprained my knee and it was painfully swollen. By improving my diet & exercise, I no longer am border line diabetic, and my mild hypertension is history. I need zero medications! OK, I occasionally will swallow a 80mg Aspirin because my father succumbed to a fatal heart attack in his early 70’s. I can still fit into my wedding suit from 1992. Actually it is a bit lose fit now lol. I am now at age 77.


81 posted on 07/11/2017 7:39:18 PM PDT by entropy12 (Russia did not elect Trump! Americans did!!)
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To: Alter Kaker; All
I don't know much about these health care bills, but the fact is we never get rid of these entitlement programs once they are created. It's not going to be completely repealed. There will have to be either some kind of compromise on a new bill or keeping Obamacare. That's the reality of the situation. We aren't going to get everything we want. That's the problem with entitlement programs getting passed to begin with.

I'm not defending this particular bill because as I said before I haven't studied any of these health care bills. I would like to ask those of you who are more knowledgeable about this issue, what is the best bill we can realistically get passed at this time?

82 posted on 07/11/2017 7:42:49 PM PDT by LeeClementineKenny (TRUMP 2020! - Make America Great Again! - MAGA!!! - www.DonaldJTrump.com)
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To: Vendome

It’s a tax you are already supposed to be paying. You better check that out before the IRS audits you.....although I think it is only for stock market sales so you may be ok if you didn’t sell anything. This really doesn’t affect you since you have had this rule in place for years. Not sure why you think they are going to rip money out of your hands....they already have been doing that.


83 posted on 07/11/2017 7:44:29 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: 2001convSVT

I think the Providence of God Almighty has other things in mind as he did at our founding without whom there never would have been an America. I think He is in the process of orchestrating a miraculous comeback of our Free Constitutional Republic.


84 posted on 07/11/2017 7:48:35 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: CMailBag

It’s amazing that every time the Republicans are in the majority, they find a way to screw it up.<<<

Nope!..they find a way to keep their gravy train rolling and make you THINK they did something for YOU!....

They need YOUR vote to stay in Washington!!!


85 posted on 07/11/2017 8:34:06 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: Alter Kaker

#Fire32YearMitch


86 posted on 07/11/2017 9:16:12 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: rockinqsranch
I am with you all the way!!!

CA....

87 posted on 07/11/2017 9:21:33 PM PDT by Chances Are (Seems I've found that silly grin again....)
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To: i_robot73

that is so mucu unrelated drivel.

The post said there was a tax increase.......there is not

Additionally, the point is rumor and is not yet part of the bill


88 posted on 07/12/2017 4:18:34 AM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: Alter Kaker

Same ole, same ole.

And they wonder why we despise them so much.


89 posted on 07/12/2017 5:15:03 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: GOPe Means Bend Over Spell Run
LOL you realize you repeated exactly what I just said and said I was wrong. Investment dollars, not income. THe other poster said you'd get hit with $10k in taxes at 200k of income and I said that would be true ONLY if the $200k was all investment income. If you had $190k (after 401k etc deductions to AGI) in earned income and $10k in investment income, with the ACA taxes, you'd pay 0.9% on the full $200k, but the 3.8% applies only to the $10k in investment income, so the tax increase is not $10k as that poster said, it would be $1,800 (0.9% * 200k) + $380 (3.8% * 10k) for a grand total of $2,180 in additional taxes. $2,180 sucks, but isn't anywhere close to the $10k that the poster I was responding to.

The only way you get to $10k is if the entire $200k in income is investment income. $200k * .9% + 200k * 3.8% = $9.4k in additional taxes if it's all investment income.

Very few households have AGIs over $200k/$250k respectively and even fewer have very significant investment income plus hit that threshold, so most people are simply hit with the 0.9% tax increase past those levels and a small amount of their income gets hit for 3.8% 9 (if at all, most are W2 income earners only)

90 posted on 07/12/2017 5:57:07 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: bert

Rumor? Yes, but when have the (R) surprised anyone...in a GOOD way?

Sure ‘surprised’:
- Handing Zero a blank check vs. PP/NEA/PBS
- ‘Full repeal’ 6-7x became ‘we don’t have a plan’
- Can’t find any evidence for Holder perjury, F&F, IRS/Lerner, $$-4-Uranium
...

I’m sure that unicorn is JUST around the corner.


91 posted on 07/12/2017 6:08:59 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: Qwackertoo

“I hope Cruz, Lee & Paul all stand together to reverse this idiotic move.”

Trump could ensure this by publicly endorsing Cruz, Lee & Paul’s ideas. Given that he publicly shamed the house Freedom Caucus for failure to endorse Obamacare lite, I am not holding my breath.


92 posted on 07/12/2017 8:27:08 AM PDT by MyDogAteMyBallot
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To: Alter Kaker

“Hey, here’s what we’ll do. Craft (crafty) a bill, making sure have at least 4 dissenters first, thus knowing it will fail, keep our insurance companies bribe moneys and bribe campaign contributions, and fool the voters not realizing they have body mortgages, collaterlized and bundled, for our own and public pensions.”


93 posted on 07/13/2017 10:07:00 PM PDT by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is is the Government Work-Camp)
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