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Senate adds penalty for going uninsured to healthcare bill
The Hill ^ | 06/26/2017 | RACHEL ROUBEIN AND NATHANIEL WEIXEL

Posted on 06/26/2017 10:41:17 AM PDT by GIdget2004

Senate Republicans on Monday released a revised version of their healthcare bill that adds a provision requiring consumers with a break in coverage to wait six months before buying insurance.

The Senate bill would make those who had a lapse in coverage for 63 days or more wait six months before obtaining insurance. (Read the bill here.)

The continuous coverage provision was noticeably omitted from the Senate’s draft, but aides said they were working behind the scenes to add it. The provision addresses concerns that people would only sign up for health coverage when they’re sick if insurers can't deny coverage for pre-existing conditions.

The addition of the six month waiting period could make it more difficult to pass the legislation, if the Senate parliamentarian rules the provision violates the complex budget reconciliation rules. Republican leadership was working over the weekend to make sure the provision complies with the rules and can be included.

It’s unclear whether Senate Republicans will have the votes to pass the bill, with at least five Senate Republicans on record as opposing the bill in its current form.

On Monday, Senate Majority Whip John Cornyn (R-Texas) doubled down that a vote will be this week.

The Congressional Budget Office is expected to issue its analysis of the bill as soon as Monday.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 115th; ahca; mcconnell; repealandreplace; rinocare
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To: GIdget2004

They’re accepting the democrat’s premise that the government has a role in the insurance market. (A role beyond protecting consumers from fraud or enforcing contracts).

I remembered this joke when I thought about it:
Man: Would you sleep with me for $million
Woman: Yes
Man: How about $10
Woman: What kind of a woman do you think I am
Man: We’ve established that, now we’re negotiating a price

Many Rs want to establish that Obamacare is the proper role of government. And working out the specific costs/payment mechanisms (costs for next year - long term costs will not be contained if history is an example. and they are actively hiding costs and avoiding responsibility)


21 posted on 06/26/2017 10:52:25 AM PDT by LostPassword
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To: GIdget2004

If these morons are confused, they should go and read Section 1 of the Constitution again. (and again and again until they get it).

Section. 8.

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;—And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.


22 posted on 06/26/2017 10:52:43 AM PDT by C210N
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To: GIdget2004
I thought saint Teddy Cruz was going to end the abomination of Obama (actually, TeddyKennedy) care.
23 posted on 06/26/2017 10:52:53 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: deadrock

If someone already has a pre-existing condition, the issue of insurance should be a moot one - the risk has already been incurred and can’t non-fraudulently be insured against.

It’s time to separate the problem of people with pre-existing conditions that make them uninsurable from the rest of the insurance availability issue.

Insurance is a risk pool. Pre-existing conditions are not risks, they are realities. The term insurance simply does not make sense in that context.


24 posted on 06/26/2017 10:53:15 AM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: McGavin999

i object to the federal government trying to run private health care services in our country


25 posted on 06/26/2017 10:53:30 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicans are not born, they're excreted." -- Marcus Tillius Cicero)
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To: House Atreides

Well, that cheers me up a little bit.

And honestly, this is from the Hill; why should I believe what THEY say?

Even so, it does bring up PTSD from how we’re always treated by the slimy Congressional cucks.


26 posted on 06/26/2017 10:53:37 AM PDT by Luircin
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To: deadrock

And, not dealing with a stage one problem because you have to wait six months for insurance, can escalate to a costly stage four problem.

Get the Feds out of the insurance business!


27 posted on 06/26/2017 10:53:59 AM PDT by Noob1999 (For)
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To: McGavin999

> It’s only reasonable if you let your insurance lapse there would be a waiting period before a new policy would go into effect.

Whether that is actually reasonable or not aside, what is not reasonable is thinking it’s any of the federal government’s business.


28 posted on 06/26/2017 10:54:31 AM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: deadrock
If people cannot be denied coverage due to a preexisting condition then the government has to force people to buy insurance. As simple as that.

Sage analysis - unless money is no object. Once the Pubbies enthusiastically endorsed pre-existing conditions coverage, either this provision or bankruptcy were inevitable.

29 posted on 06/26/2017 10:57:04 AM PDT by FirstFlaBn
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To: GIdget2004

Uniparty likes this and likes obamacare.


30 posted on 06/26/2017 10:57:20 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: GIdget2004
Okay, that's it...kill the bill... Let the Obama Care flame out, keep it out for at least a year...don't let anything come on the floor, and take away the health care plans from all Congress, aides, government employees...then watch how fast they will get off their fat butts and get The Trump Health Care Plan that HE wants for AMERICANS!!!
31 posted on 06/26/2017 10:58:24 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 ( "The Force Awakens!!!"...Trump and Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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To: thoughtomator
The GOP will not let the 'cover those preexisting conditions' die. That is now the default GOP position. They are still afraid of the lying MSM portraying them as evil.

The other side of the coin is a mandatory insurance purchase. You cannot have one with out the other or people will hold off buying insurance until a horror strikes.

32 posted on 06/26/2017 10:58:25 AM PDT by deadrock (I is someone else.)
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To: GIdget2004

Dear Senate,

CAN YOU ASSHOLES KINDLY REMOVE YOURSELVES FROM LIFE!?

KTHXBYE!


33 posted on 06/26/2017 10:59:02 AM PDT by chris37 (Donald J. Trump, Tom Brady, The Patriots... American Destiny!)
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To: GIdget2004

modified individual mandate ?

we can’t be this stupid.


34 posted on 06/26/2017 10:59:16 AM PDT by stylin19a
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To: GIdget2004

It’s not that I don’t understand but rather don’t care for the reasons idiot-care isn’t simply trashed and replaced. I just want it done. Let there be market competition, let providers come up with new products, be innovative and have a normal pressure to not charge insane amounts. That’s all..


35 posted on 06/26/2017 11:00:40 AM PDT by Made In The USA (Next thing you know, 'ol Jed's a millionaire)
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To: Noob1999

Free market all the way. But if the government mandates that free market insurance brokers cannot turn down people with preexisting conditions, the insurance companies will lobby, and get, mandatory insurance payments or fines.


36 posted on 06/26/2017 11:01:46 AM PDT by deadrock (I is someone else.)
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To: GIdget2004

Brilliant, GOPe! Force people to buy health insurance when they don’t want to—and then don’t allow them to buy health insurance when they want it!

God help us! If only Trump would have a clue on this and take the lead. I am afraid his billionaire experience just lleads him to want to demonstrate “heart” and not understand how very important the free market dynamics are here.


37 posted on 06/26/2017 11:02:25 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: thoughtomator

The federal government got involved 7 years ago and untangling the Gordian knot is going to take time. I have no intention of paying for people who are so selfish they wait for something to be wrong before the join the insurance pool. These same people will drop it as soon as they are well again. That’s theft


38 posted on 06/26/2017 11:02:34 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: LostPassword

Yes, Trump himself is always talking about the “plan” that he and Congress are going to “give” to us. Ugh!


39 posted on 06/26/2017 11:03:03 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: thoughtomator
This is how insurance companies treated people before Obamacare. Actually, it was probably worse then. This provision will at least allow you to buy after a waiting period.

I honestly think this is a reasonable add-on to the bill, but I would like to see one more thing: something like a COBRA policy or a high-deductible deal so that people who have lapses and need the insurance can still get something.

The high-deductible thing would protect the premiums of everyone else, plus allowing an alternative for those having a sudden catastrophic event while uninsured.

40 posted on 06/26/2017 11:03:25 AM PDT by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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