Posted on 06/23/2017 9:44:27 AM PDT by Mariner
The “proof” will be presented at the General Courts Martial.
There will be about a dozen of the Fitz’s crew there.
It’s downright weird.
Maybe somebody hit the nitrous?
/s
“Deliberate ramming.”
This could have been a test of an enemy’s radar jamming device. We shall see going forward.
Sigh. The course changes were after the collusion. The initial time reports were wrong.
“This could have been a test of an enemy’s radar jamming device.”
So, you postulate that an Aegis DDG, having all its radars jammed (there are several, independent systems) would not have known they were jammed...did not alter/awaken the skipper and and immediately call it in to Cincpacflt and CNO?
Notwithstanding that it would be an act of war on the high seas by a state actor...and no retaliation?
Do either of these crews know what a constant bearing at sea is?
Bridge watch on both ships fail after ship systems fail. How plausible is that?
Do you remember the threads about the supposed Chinese sub launching an ICBM off the coast of CA that was recorded by a helicopter pilot? He recorded it for 10 minutes. There were threads hundreds of posts long. Some thought it was just a contrail looking head on. Some thought it was a super slow speed missile. It was a story from World Net Daily.
FReegards
So a small zodiac style boat came along side a U.S. warship that no one suspected could cause mass destruction, sailors on board were waving. The next thing you know, boom. That scenario seemed ridiculous too, until it happened.
Agreed
Any sub that launched an ICBM off the US coast without prior notification would be sunk and the nation that did it would face the potential of massive retaliation.
Why would any nation risk all-out nuclear war with the US?
Not plausible.
“I believe the 1:30 time of collision is cleared up. I have seen several reports stating the US Navy is not going to disagree with the 1:30 time. It seems only those who have some sort of reason for messing with the interpretation of events are having problems accepting 1:30.”
Ah, good to hear. That should largely settle the matter in terms of the Crystal’s actions. The biggest question left to answer now seems to be just what in the world was going on on the Fitz’s bridge.
“So a small zodiac style boat came along side a U.S. warship that no one suspected could cause mass destruction, sailors on board were waving. The next thing you know, boom. That scenario seemed ridiculous too, until it happened.”
That ship, the USS Cole, was tied up alongside the pier.
The initial right turn was collision, then back on course until slowed down, then return to site.
Have you ever been on a destroyer? Have you been in the CIC (Combat Information Center) room? Have you ever been on the Bridge? Have you ran the ship’s wheel? I have, many years ago.
The line of communication from the CIC, OOD to the helmsman can be messed up with human error. It was this human error that caused the Fitzgerald to be on the collision trajectory in the first place. The freighter was coming in from the USS Fitzgerald’s starboard side. Someone gave the wrong course correction and realized too late they made the wrong course correction. It could have been the helmsman who did not hear or interpret the course correction correctly. It could have been the CIC’s correction coming into the Bridge with incorrect numbers. It could have been the OOD who heard the course correction wrong and yelled out the wrong numbers to the helmsman. When the mistake was realized, things had to be done quick. In this case prior to and during collision, the Fitzgerald was “heeled over” due to a hard avoidance turn to port. There was brief, glancing collision, with the ACX Crystal’s bow deflecting to starboard (as shown in the AIS data) — and the (entire) USS Fitzgerald deflecting (displacing) to port.
I think the Fitz crew did at least of their own vessel, so much so they didn’t avoid the collision.
Why would world nut daily run a story that called a contrail on the horizon a super slow ballistic missile?
Because they are world nut daily and it fit the preconceived notions of those who wanted proof Obama was weak on Chinese aggression.
It’s the internet.
Freegards
I just start going down a checklist of what could be possible when confronted with a seeming mystery like this. Oftentimes it’s helpful.
Either something highly unusual but possible occurred that can’t be fully disclosed, or something highly embarrassing but possible occurred that someone doesn’t want to fully disclose.
Among the highly unusual, what would be possible? Some sort of catastrophic equipment failure that’s very damning of the ship itself? Could a potential catastrophic equipment failure have been some sort of hack, sabotage or introduced externally i.e. a new type of weapon?
Among the highly embarrassing, that’s where quite a few possibilities would appear to lie, not saying that’s what occurred but possible negligence and human error abounds. Do we know for a fact that the commander of the ship was not on the bridge and was in the main cabin intended for use in port? If so that might be an indication of general discipline and lack of procedure onboard that destroyer. Is it possible that all systems functioned correctly and the threat was ignored due to incompetence, neglect or distraction?
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