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Kurds reaching critical juncture in US partnership
al-Monitor ^ | June 22, 2017 | Fehim Tastekin

Posted on 06/22/2017 9:44:29 PM PDT by Texas Fossil

US President Donald Trump is wavering between members of his team who want to expand the war in Syria by also targeting Iranian-linked elements and those who say such a step would mean endless conflict in the region. This internal US disarray further complicates already-complex field developments in the Syrian civil war and the battle against the Islamic State (IS).

Whichever way US policy in Syria moves, it's clear there will be no changes in its position on the Kurds. Beyond driving IS out of Raqqa, the United States appears to have long-range plans for the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), in which the Kurdish People’s Protection Units (YPG) play a significant role.

Numerous claims are circulating that the United States will deploy forces to Syria's Tabqa base, which has been liberated from IS; that the YPG will be sent to al-Tanf base on the Iraq-Syria border, where Jordanian-based forces opposed to the Syrian regime are operating; and that after Raqqa the next target will be Deir ez-Zor, and Kurds will be tasked with challenging the Iranian elements. Those ideas — combined with the pro-Saudi position the United States has adopted in the crisis with Qatar — inevitably lead to the question of what's next for the US-Kurdish partnership.

A senior YPG commander who spoke to Al-Monitor on condition of anonymity said the YPG is ready to go to anyplace in Syria to fight IS, but they will not agree to any alliance beyond that. He said Kurds see Iran as a problem but will not become part of a battle against it. They have no plans to move to al-Tanf, he said.

Recent developments have prompted questions as to whether the United States is using the Kurds and how much the Kurds can rely on the United States.

Erbil-based news agency Basnews contradicted the YPG commander, reporting that on US demand the YPG will send forces to al-Tanf military base in the Syria-Jordan-Iraq triangle and that Kurds will have a role in restraining Iran-affiliated groups. Basnews reported that American forces concluded a 10-year cooperation agreement with the YPG.

Basnews also reported details of the supposed agreement: The United States will treat the YPG as an ally in combating terror; the United States will provide all assistance to the YPG; the United States will help the SDF evolve into an army; the YPG will continue to be part of the SDF; the YPG will guarantee there will be no attacks against neighboring countries from Rojava (Syrian Kurdistan); and the YPG will ensure the security of US soldiers and bases in the region.

In an unusual move, Kurdish officials have made statements supportive of Riyadh regarding its tension with Qatar. A Saudi-led coalition of Gulf states and Egypt cut ties with Qatar earlier this month, claiming Qatar supports terrorist groups — a claim Qatar denies.

But a few days later on June 8, Syrian Democratic Assembly co-chair Ilham Ahmed told Saudi newspaper Al Riyadh, “Saudi Arabia is a brotherly country of Syria and is important for the Muslims.” About the Qatari role in Syria, she said, “Qatar, like several other countries, could have played a positive role in resolving the crisis, but its support to [some opposition groups over others] caused splits among [the opposition] and opened the way to extremism and terror in Syria.” As for Iran’s role in Syria, she said, “There is no room for sectarian and nationalist projects in Syria.”

Salih Muslim, co-chair of the Kurdish Democratic Union Party, also spoke to the same newspaper. He said that Iran, like Turkey, is hostile toward Kurds and fears they will gain rights in Syria.

Previously, Kurds had blamed the Saudis as much as Qatar and Turkey for emboldening jihadist groups in Syria. Kurds warned that the spread of Wahhabi ideology (strict fundamentalism) would harm the region. Kurds have always been suspicious of Iran and said Iran had participated alongside the Syrian regime in clashes against Kurds in Rojava. Nevertheless, Kurds did not openly challenge Iran.

The secular Kurds in Rojava said the partnership they formed with the United States during the October 2014 Kobani siege was imperative in the face of the IS threat. The United States, which had equipped and trained scores of groups affiliated with the Free Syrian Army (FSA) but could not get anything done with them, shifted to a partnership with the Kurds, who were able to maintain dialogue both with the United States and Russia while preserving a controlled tension with the Syrian regime.

The Kurds' balance shifted to favor the United States as Americans intervened to end Turkey's increasing attacks against Rojava. When the nature and scope of the partnership with the United States changed, the Kurds — who until then had hesitated to participate in an operation against IS in Raqqa — crossed to the south of the Euphrates River as part of the SDF. They took the Tabqa base from IS and made moves to slow the advance of the Syrian regime's army, thus abandoning their cautious handling of Syrian and Russian interests. It was then evident that the Kurds definitely opted to ally with the United States.

But the YPG commander who spoke to Al-Monitor was more cautious. Referring to operations away from the Euphrates, he said, “Americans had a plan for al-Tanf, but that was foiled when Syrian-Iranian forces reached the Iraqi border first. Americans wanted to transfer allied forces in Jordan to Deir ez-Zor. If they could have done that they would have become our neighbors. But they cannot ask such a move from the Kurds. We can’t send out forces elsewhere. Of course, we want to expand the battle against terror. We are willing to form a joint front, but we can’t transfer our forces.”

Asked about the reports of a 10-year accord with the United States, the YPG officer said, “There is no such agreement. Of course, there is a kind of partnership on the ground. The US support has assumed serious dimensions, but it has not become based on any official document. Actually, this is the contradiction in our relationship with the United States. We do everything together, but nothing is done officially.”

As to the pro-Saudi declarations of some Kurdish leaders in the crisis with Qatar, he said, “We expressed a political reaction in view of the chaos. I don’t think this was the appropriate attitude. Saudi Arabia is as responsible as Turkey for the chaos in the Middle East. They are enemies of the Kurds. I think our people felt like saying something as required at the time. I don’t think ours is a strategic decision.”

Asked about the Kurdish response to the possible US demands to curtail Iranian influence in the region, the senior YPG commander said, “It is strategically and ideologically wrong to set up an alliance against Iran similar to the one set up against [IS]. We cannot line up with imperialist forces, neither with bigots. We have serious projects for the Kurds and also for the future of Syria, starting with democratization of the country. That is our goal. The United States doesn’t care. We are wondering whether the international partnerships we have entered into will help implement this major project.”

The YPG commander, responding to claims that the United States will deploy to Tabqa, also mentioned the Kurds' meeting June 17 with the Russians at Syria’s Khmeimim air base, saying, “The United States above all coordinates with Russia. They bargained with Russians, not with the Kurds, about Tabqa. Two forces drive politics in Syria: the United States and Russia. We are working for the integrity and democratization of Syria. That is why we are ready to fight at any corner of Syria. Russians are criticizing Kurds not because of Raqqa, but Tabqa. Two days ago, we sat down with them at Khmeimim to ease their concerns. They don’t mind [us coming] down to the Euphrates but reject our crossing to the south of the river. We came down 25 kilometers; they told us the Euphrates is a natural boundary we shouldn't cross. But this is a boundary between the United States and Russia. I said to them, ‘Don’t draw a boundary. We also want to reach Damascus. To draw a boundary is a scenario to divide the land. You are drawing such a boundary.’ The Russians were surprised by our reaction. They have to understand that our problem is not only autonomy for the Kurds.”

Asked how he would respond to charges that Kurds are the ones who brought the United States into Syria, he said, “Yes, the United States entered the region with Kurdish support. They couldn’t have done it otherwise. But that partnership with the United States has helped to extricate the Kurds from the vicious circle of oppression that has been over them for a hundred years.”

Kurds are also debating the future of cooperating with the Americans, who don't bestow political recognition and who confine that relationship to a military partnership. In other words, Kurds are questioning how far they will be asked to carry the load of US policy as it evolves in the region.

Meanwhile, former US Ambassador to Damascus Robert Ford issued a striking warning in a June 19 interview with Asharq Al-Awsat. Ford said the United States is using the Kurds only to fight IS and warned that Kurds will pay a heavy price for depending on the United States. Ford said the United States will not ask its army to defend Syrian Kurdistan as an independent region.

The US partnership offers attractive opportunities, but it also brings with it the fear of having to face Turkey and Syria one day. Ford's warning becomes more meaningful when one adds to those fears the reactions the Kurds will inevitably face in the Arab world in the post-IS era.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Syria
KEYWORDS: isis; kurds; partnership; us
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I don't know about this author. He has written books on material about Syria. That does not make him an authority, I admit experience on the ground is a lot better than that of an academic when it comes to these things.

His logic seems reasonable. His conclusions on outcome are vague. Well, that is how it is.

He is right, Kurds objectives are not same as US. but I think that is being a bit unfair.

Saudi Arabia, the US (under Obama) and others helped create this mess. There is some obligation to help correct it now. I hope that is understood and this moves in the direction of a peace that works.

A peace that provides the maximum freedom for our Kurd and SDF allies. No one need be apologetic about what has been accomplished in ending the Great Evil called ISIS.

When ISIS is gone, May sane heads prevail (unusual in the Middle East) and a lasting peace begin.

X-Ambassador Robert Ford's remarks reflect on Obama's attitude, NOT no President Trump's attitude. President has never been and never will be anything like Obama. Period.

1 posted on 06/22/2017 9:44:30 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: BeauBo; Candor7; ColdOne; Navy Patriot; caww; huldah1776; dp0622; Gene Eric; Freemeorkillme

Syria Ping


2 posted on 06/22/2017 9:46:44 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

What the word? Statehood for the kurds. It will piss off all the right people and reward a loyal friend.


3 posted on 06/22/2017 9:55:58 PM PDT by datricker (Build the wall. If you build it, they won't come - Field of Dreamers)
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To: Texas Fossil

Interesting read. The main goal is to defeat ISIS. I am leery of anything beyond that unless there is a damn good reason. Maybe crush another ISIS want to be in the bud.


4 posted on 06/22/2017 10:00:03 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: datricker

Yes, that is what I want for the Kurds and SDF.

But this is happening too:

Turkey and Syria prepare for an embargo and attack on Rojava

https://anfenglish.com/rojava/turkey-and-syria-prepare-for-an-embargo-and-attack-on-rojava-20600

Now is this a chess game or is this the reality. Assad and Erdogan about to attack the Kurds? I’m not smart enough to know the difference. Assad and Turkey are the bad guys. That is clear to me.

Will outside pressure from Saudi Arabia, the U.S., and possibly Russia bridle Erdogan and Assad?

If it does not, how far will we step into this.

I pray it ends well. There are too many good people who are about to be killed over crappy leadership.


5 posted on 06/22/2017 10:05:51 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Parley Baer

The good reasons?

Israel and Jordan and Egypt and Iraq Kurds.

The Bad guys are Iran.

They are what is bringing Israel and Saudi Arabia to table to help defend each other. Very novel idea.


6 posted on 06/22/2017 10:08:58 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

I think Russia’s concern is that when the dust settles ‘who’ exactly is going to be part of the Governing Administration of ‘Syria’ as a whole country undivided.

We have already read that after this war the US will be taking back all the armament etc. from the Kurds they have provided. If or not they really do this remains to be seen of course.

The idea is it looks like all sides want a say in Syria.....but I’m of the mind Syrian people should choose what their government should look like.


7 posted on 06/22/2017 10:10:12 PM PDT by caww
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Syrian people should. Yes. That is how it should be.

Not what Iran, Turkey or Assad wants.

Kurds don’t want Syria destroyed. Only good government and fair treatment.

Can Assad be trusted if he says he will, no.

Can Turkey be trusted? Only at gun point.

Can the US be trusted? I think Trump can.

Can Iran be trusted? Not on you life.

Can Russia be trusted? Probably not, although I would like to think it is possible.


8 posted on 06/22/2017 10:21:08 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: caww

I must crash now. Am totally gone. Thanks. Another day. GN


9 posted on 06/22/2017 10:24:04 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

Night..sleep well!


10 posted on 06/22/2017 10:32:42 PM PDT by caww
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To: Texas Fossil
Chess game AND the $hits about to get real.

Too bad there are still so many pawns in the game.

11 posted on 06/22/2017 11:29:29 PM PDT by onona (i don't know what the reticent is)
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** Chess game AND the $hits about to get real.
Too bad there are still so many pawns in the game. **

*** Recent developments have prompted questions as to whether the United States is using the Kurds ***

Of course, the Kurds are being played with the promise of Rojava. Look at Raqqa today, real time. Look at the loop.

The goal was not to defeat ISIS. It was to push them towards SAA/RU territory. The YPG,YPJ,SDF coalition is temporary. The SDF/US goals will not be those of the Kurds.

And now, fighters from Latin American Countries where the CIA pushed regime change are getting into the fray. If Raqqa is where all hell breaks loose, I would not be surprised.

This is quickly snowballing, and I wish the US would cut the ME regime change BS.


12 posted on 06/23/2017 3:34:44 AM PDT by sockmonkey (Donald Trump will ban auto-correct with an Executive Order. Go Trump!)
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To: onona

Well, I guess we will soon see if there are enough adults left to bring this back in check.

(I have not looked across the pond yet this morning for news. Next step)


13 posted on 06/23/2017 5:49:09 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

Agreed. The former ambassador is meddling and needs to be quashed.


14 posted on 06/23/2017 6:31:47 AM PDT by Freemeorkillme
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To: caww
We have already read that after this war the US will be taking back all the armament etc. from the Kurds they have provided

I'd say that source can be discounted. As if the Kurds would agree...

15 posted on 06/23/2017 7:08:03 AM PDT by Paul R.
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Well they’ve certainly kept track of what they’ve given the Kurds. Would be cruel IMO if they confiscated what they gave...appears Turkey had something to do with the deal...only if they were returned to the US would Turkey go with Groups.


16 posted on 06/23/2017 7:45:02 AM PDT by caww
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To: Texas Fossil

This seems like a well-reasoned and realistic article. It is a complex, multi-player game over there, and the stakes are high.

It is a tough argument to make, that Kurds should risk their lives for American policy objectives - so the rewards, and the reliability of those rewards, must be worth it.

It is pretty clear though, that without American support it is back to the mountains for the Kurds in a year or two. Turkey will see to that before Assad or Iran could, but the others likely will not be far behind. The only options for protection from Turkey are the US or submission to Assad (with Russian and Iranian involvement).

There is the clear potential for a new regional alignment though, that could possibly bring the Kurds a perfect storm of American security guarantees, Saudi development funds, and Israeli business know-how - which is driven primarily from the common desire to contain Iran. Having control of the key terrain blocking the “Shia Crescent” will give them enduring geo-strategic leverage, making them very difficult to abandon.

But the risks are high, no matter which course they take.


17 posted on 06/23/2017 8:09:59 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: BeauBo

Agree.

Feedback right now is on Efrin. I punched all the usual buttons again today. Not sure yet whether I hit the right ones.

Still trying to get through to my least favorite senator. But I am going to try. Surly they know what is happening. (He is on the intelligence committee, isn’t that a frightening thought? headshake)


18 posted on 06/23/2017 11:18:04 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Freemeorkillme

The former Ambassador is a slithering snake. But remember he was appointed by Obama.


19 posted on 06/23/2017 11:20:50 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: caww

Hmmm... If I’m a Kurd, no way I give them back...


20 posted on 06/24/2017 3:28:30 PM PDT by Paul R.
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