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Does this sketch prove JFK was assassinated by TWO gunmen? [Drawing by surgeon]
Daily Mail ^ | June 21 2017 | James Wilkinson

Posted on 06/21/2017 8:46:16 PM PDT by WilliamIII

Dr Robert McClelland held JFK's head as he was operated on after being shot

He drew a sketch based on what he saw that said the bullets came from the front

McClelland later decided Kennedy was shot from in front and behind

He believes the second gunman must have been on the infamous 'grassy knoll'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: jfk
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To: mlo

>> Bugliosi looked at actual evidence. Unlike those conspiracy books you are relying on.

Many people have looked at the same evidence and evaluated it quite differently, which of course is a very common phenomenon.


101 posted on 06/22/2017 8:17:15 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat
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To: morphing libertarian

Yeah, I watched a documentary on him the other night. I think he’s the kind of mobster the other mobsters wanted to be.


102 posted on 06/22/2017 8:19:51 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Rehab is for quitters.)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat
Yes, I am sure he will have his detractors, especially amongst those who favor conspiracy (I include myself among them as I favor the 'Appointment in Dallas' explanation).

I decided though to give Bugliosi a read, so as to hear his version. I heard him speak on a show once and he said (I paraphrase):

For those who do not believe the Warren Report, I ask: Have you ever read it, all of it?

He has a point.

103 posted on 06/22/2017 8:22:16 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Women who are 25 pounds overweight tend to live longer than the men who mention it.)
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To: BipolarBob

“Who is Carlos Marcello?”

He was a “businessman” in New Orleans.

He was also an associate of my grandfather and a couple great uncles in New Orleans.

Marcello showed-up at my grandfather’s funeral to pay his respects.


104 posted on 06/22/2017 8:22:41 PM PDT by Timpanagos1
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To: Netz

>>Harold Weisberg, Mark Lane and Sylvia Meager all were pioneering critiques of the Warren Commission. Their books are the solid research initially done to disprove the Warren Report. Go with them, avoid the nut jobs.

Most devotees of the WCR and Bugliosi simply refuse to read the research of the authors you mention, which is regrettable because so much of the Commission Report has been proven to be erroneous.


105 posted on 06/22/2017 8:24:07 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat
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To: Timpanagos1
He had a small tomato canning shop. That must be where he got all of his dough and power.

/s

106 posted on 06/22/2017 8:25:10 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Rehab is for quitters.)
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To: BipolarBob

My grandfather insisted that Marcello was a “businessman.”

And not just in passing, but looking my dad straight in the eye and saying “Marcello is a businessman, you got that?”


107 posted on 06/22/2017 8:32:07 PM PDT by Timpanagos1
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To: Michael.SF.

>> For those who do not believe the Warren Report, I ask: Have you ever read it, all of it?

He has a point.

Perhaps. But since the Warren Report is, I believe, a 10-volume set of books, I doubt that hardly anyone, including Mr. Bugliosi, has read all of it.


108 posted on 06/22/2017 8:32:10 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat
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To: fortes fortuna juvat
the Warren Report is, I believe, a 10-volume set of books

Is there a "Cliff's Notes" version?

109 posted on 06/22/2017 8:36:00 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" month.)
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To: BipolarBob

He had the advantage of being in NO.


110 posted on 06/22/2017 8:41:48 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: fortes fortuna juvat
Discredited by many professionals both civilian and military with extensive experience in the interrelated subjects of ballistics and physiopathology.

1. Luis Alvarez, a Nobel Prize physicist, showed through experiment how what I described can occur. He also did a lot of analysis on other aspects of the assassination including the Zapruder film. Here is a description by another successful physicist of how Alvarez was by far the smartest person he knew.

2. Bugliosi pointed out that at the frame of the Zapruder film where Kennedy's head is hit, his head moves forward slightly. Therefore, since his head was hit with only one bullet, and was spraying out brain matter, the subsequent backward motion of his head, is entirely consistent with this theory.

111 posted on 06/22/2017 10:28:18 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: Michael.SF.
I’m still early in the book( I’m on page 200), but I am bothered a bit by some errors in his time frames. Example: arrived at Parkland at 12:36, prounounced dead at 1:05. Yet he says that the Doctors worked on him for 42 minutes to try and save his life?

I checked the book earlier. It says that doctors declared him dead about 1:00. I could not find anything about 42 minutes.

112 posted on 06/22/2017 10:33:27 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: wideminded

See Page 71, footnote.


113 posted on 06/22/2017 10:56:00 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Women who are 25 pounds overweight tend to live longer than the men who mention it.)
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To: Michael.SF.

You’re right. The footnote has an error. I was thinking that maybe Bugliosi originally wrote 24 minutes (which would make sense: 12:36 - 1:00), and somehow he or the secretary who transcribed his handwritten manuscript got it backwards. But the New York Times article (from November 23rd, 1963) that he refers to in the same footnote quotes the doctors as saying that Kennedy was on the emergency room table for about 40 minutes. Of course the doctors probably over-estimated, but Bugliosi should have caught that. And why would 40 turn into 42?


114 posted on 06/23/2017 12:32:41 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

>> Is there a “Cliff’s Notes” version?

Yes. It is a thick, case bound compilation of the Commission’s investigations and findings, and is what people usually are referring to when they speak of the Report. I have a copy, given to me by my father, who swallowed the findings of the Report “hook, line, and sinker.” It was my reading of it that prompted me to study the investigations and findings of those who are derisively referred to as “the conspiracy theorists.”


115 posted on 06/23/2017 8:07:04 AM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat
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To: fortes fortuna juvat
"Many people have looked at the same evidence and evaluated it quite differently, which of course is a very common phenomenon."

Of course, but some people look at evidence and say the world is flat. Not every opinion equally valid.

The fact of the matter is that conspiracy books have routinely lied about what the evidence is, and continue to repeat long debunked theories. You will not understand the evidence in this case from reading conspiracy books. They are excercises in confirmation bias.

116 posted on 06/23/2017 8:54:07 AM PDT by mlo
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To: faucetman; octex
"The hole in the back of his head is an EXIT wound."

The hole is in the top right of the head, not the back. It comes from the pressure wave created by the bullet causing the head to explode. It isn't simply opposite the bullet entry.

There's is a ton of available evidence, real evidence about this. Things like this are just ignoring it all to stick with some preconceived notion.

117 posted on 06/23/2017 9:03:30 AM PDT by mlo
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To: fortes fortuna juvat

Then why on Earth did Zapruder and his secretary not report it!??!?


118 posted on 06/23/2017 11:16:06 AM PDT by Monty22002
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To: BipolarBob

Carlos Marcello was the Mafia Chief in New Orleans, the oldest Mafia group in the US and the only one,at one time, that did not have to get any clearance from the National Syndicate for permission to do anything. He was the single most powerful crime leader in the US at one time.


119 posted on 06/23/2017 11:20:19 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: mlo

>>They are excercises in confirmation bias.

Precisely how multitudes of people characterize the Warren Report!


120 posted on 06/23/2017 2:33:20 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat
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