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The Simple Physics That Makes Some Bullets Deadlier Than Others
thetrace.org ^ | 6/21/2017 | Alex Yablon

Posted on 06/21/2017 1:47:31 PM PDT by rktman

The bullet that struck U.S. Representative Steve Scalise last week was travelling at somewhere between 1,100 and 2,600 feet per second. The projectile, a 7.62 x 39 bullet, hit the House majority whip with between 370 and 1,550 foot-pounds of force. The rifle round, which is longer than a pistol projectile, likely also began tumbling after its point collided with his hip. That meant that the tip didn’t just bore straight through him, but rather that the whole length of the projectile rotated over and over through Scalise’s body, ripping a wider hole and distributing a bigger shock wave throughout his bones and tissue.

The 7.62 round is not as fast as the .223, the round fired by the AR-15 (America’s most popular assault rifle)

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To: SJSAMPLE
All bullets will tumble in the body (or gel, water, etc.). They are stable in air. They are not stable in a denser medium. If you hit bone, that's more of a deflection.

The ogive shape of rifle bullets is inherently unstable. Which is why they need to be spun by the rifling. That's a very simplified description.

41 posted on 06/21/2017 4:29:29 PM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

PRIVI makes good ammo


42 posted on 06/21/2017 4:30:02 PM PDT by dynachrome (When an empire dies, you are left with vast monuments in front of which peasants squat to defecate)
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To: oldenuff35
Thank you for setting the record straight. I figured this guy was a knucklehead when just two short paragraphs in, he makes the statement:

"The gunman was able to inflict such extensive damage from across a baseball field because he was using a semiautomatic rifle that may have qualified as an assault weapon, akin to a standard infantry combat weapon."

Also, sincere thanks for your service to our country.

43 posted on 06/21/2017 4:31:17 PM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: oldenuff35

Because the FMJ was dictated by governments as a humane way to wound and disable rather than maim and kill.


44 posted on 06/21/2017 4:50:33 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - JRRT)
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To: rktman

The author of this trash probably thinks that owning a Corvette makes one a race car driver.


45 posted on 06/21/2017 4:50:34 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (Trump-2016)
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To: oldenuff35

Thank you. I lack your expertise, but I have been interested in ballistics since adolescence. You confirmed some of my suspicions about article and author.


46 posted on 06/21/2017 4:52:48 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - JRRT)
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To: Thumper1960
No, Indy car. 👹🏎
47 posted on 06/21/2017 5:00:31 PM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: The Good Doctor
What .22 cal has 2600+ fps muzzle velocity??? The "high velocity" .22s the kids and I shoot are like 1400fps.

The 5.7x28mm does that all day long. Some loads can even do it from a pistol.

48 posted on 06/21/2017 5:13:28 PM PDT by papertyger (The semantics define how we think.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

There are 9mm rounds out there now that impact harder and with more velocity than .357 magnum rounds.
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Source it or B.S.


49 posted on 06/21/2017 5:33:21 PM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights .........It is the LAW...)
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To: vette6387
But they are outlawed by name as “assault rifles” by name here in CA.

Since when? From Roberti-Roos 1989 and onward the weapons were spelled out as "assault weapons".

Roberti-Roos named specific weapons by model and manufacturer. The California Supreme court generalized the law to all "assault weapons" by features -- they rewrote the law. This was around 2000.

I lost track of California gun laws since they no longer effected me -- I moved to Phoenix in 1995. You say the law now uses the term "assault rifle". Can you cite the law, year and title/section?

Thanks.

50 posted on 06/21/2017 8:41:15 PM PDT by nonsporting
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To: nonsporting

Here is the list: The SKS is on it.

http://www.guns.com/2015/05/28/see-the-guns-that-are-illegal-in-california-55-photos/

I just converted my AR to a “featureless rifle” using a Thordsen Stock. It eliminates the pistol grip and the collapsable stock. Then I replaced the A2 Flash hider with a “muzzle brake.” With these changes, you don’t have to fix the mag, and I like the way it shoots better as well.

There is now a new law requiring serialization and registration of personally built AR-15’s and AK’s with the so called evil features by January of 2018, and they are going to stop allowing internet sales of ammunition (you will have to have a license to purchase ammo and what you buy will be recorded). I just imagine the Nevada ammo dealers are going to be liking the increased business. In my view, we need to have a national law regarding all of this with nationwide rules that comport with the Second Amendment. The way CA is going, the probably won’t have the money to enforce these laws. Personally, I’m hoping the state follows Illinois into bankruptcy.


51 posted on 06/21/2017 9:40:19 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: rktman
Good to know information.
Maybe it's time to buy an AK (USA made) or an old SKS.
52 posted on 06/21/2017 9:44:42 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: S.O.S121.500

Prolly nine millimeter “longs”, lol


53 posted on 06/21/2017 9:53:28 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: Mariner

How about just under 2000 fps with an 85 grain 30 cal from a 7 1/2 inch barrel?

Ruger Blackhawk in 30 Carbine with handloads. Wear your ear protection for this one.


54 posted on 06/22/2017 3:05:07 AM PDT by Dusty Road (")
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To: The Good Doctor

They were talking about the 22 Hornet.


55 posted on 06/22/2017 3:06:54 AM PDT by Dusty Road (")
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To: Mariner

5 inch barrel is used - I thought it was 115gr, could be 95. IMI is the one I am thinking about.
Doubletap used to claim 1400fps in one of their 9mm +p rounds. They’ve taken that data down since then.


56 posted on 06/22/2017 4:38:04 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Americans are modern day Amorites ripe for destruction)
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To: dynachrome

I agree.
I think they actually make the hottest 7.62x39 round out there.


57 posted on 06/22/2017 4:39:11 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Americans are modern day Amorites ripe for destruction)
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