[Lou L]

The second, that one is as old as the sea.

That makes more sense, I agree.

The only thing I might add is that if there was a CPA-zero situation, the quarter master, lookouts, and the CIC surface watches should've all been echoing the same thing to the OOD. All of these reports about this contact should be entered in log books, along with any action take by the OOD.

[rlmorel]

Sigh. I just don’t see how the Navy is going to come out of this smelling like a rose, even if it was hostile intent.

I am saddened by much I see, and when the Iranians captured those two Navy boats last year, it nearly made me spit.

I don’t have a wish to see the USN doing poorly, but...something is rotten.