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Ya I’m not sure why people on FR say the Civil War wasn’t about slavery.

Yes, it was. 100%. If the North hadn’t wanted to get rid of slavery, the South would never have seceded.


11 posted on 06/17/2017 6:26:33 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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The southern states outlined the reasons they were seceding in their Articles of Secession. More than one state said that a reason to secede was that the northern states refused to enforce the Fugitive Slave Act.

So much for states' rights, too.

18 posted on 06/17/2017 6:31:19 PM PDT by SSS Two
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To: FreedomStar3028
Ya I’m not sure why people on FR say the Civil War wasn’t about slavery.

Yes, it was. 100%. If the North hadn’t wanted to get rid of slavery, the South would never have seceded.

Say what you will, but I cannot go a thousand feet in any direction from my home without seeing a historical marker about a troop movement, a line of fortification or a home that was used as a HQ or hospital in the War Between The States. The Southern States fought because the South was invaded by Northern Armies of oppression and subjugation.

My Great Grandfather fought in the Battle of Kennesaw Mountain which is five miles from my house. It really bothers me when armchair warriors ascribe malicious motives to people in another time you could not possibly have any knowledge of.

38 posted on 06/17/2017 6:56:07 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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I've always understood that slavery was just a symptom of a much bigger issue. I didn't always see it that way, but it became clear in my travels for work across the Midwest and Great Plains on a couple of transportation projects.

The U.S. was never going to survive as a unified country as long as you had a scenario where the southern states could control the flow of trade through the Mississippi River system (including the Mississippi, Missouri and Ohio Rivers). The power brokers in the mid-19th century also recognized that the future settlement of the West would be hampered unless the powers of state governments were diminished and the Federal government was given a level of authority that had no solid foundation in constitutional law. The power to charter national corporations and establish a standard railroad gauge, for example, was absolutely essential for the country to be settled and developed as quickly as it was.

44 posted on 06/17/2017 7:03:49 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: FreedomStar3028
“Ya I’m not sure why people on FR say the Civil War wasn’t about slavery.”

If the South was fighting for slavery, who was fighting against slavery?

45 posted on 06/17/2017 7:04:48 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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The federal government fought the war to remove a state’s ability to secede and establish the federal law as the supreme law of the land. Everything else is just theatre. The states had a right to secede from the union, if the federal government became overbearing. It does not matter if the state is being a bad actor in regards to why it wishes to secede. Now that the feds won the Civil War, it can pass whatever laws it wishes and override any state it wants and no state can secede over it.


61 posted on 06/17/2017 7:25:11 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: FreedomStar3028
Ya I’m not sure why people on FR say the Civil War wasn’t about slavery.

Yes, it was. 100%. If the North hadn’t wanted to get rid of slavery, the South would never have seceded.

It is a total revisionist myth that the North was against slavery.

Initially intended to express anger at the draft, the protests turned into a race riot, with white rioters, predominantly Irish immigrants,[4] attacking blacks throughout the city. The official death toll was listed at either 119 or 120 individuals. Conditions in the city were such that Major General John E. Wool, commander of the Department of the East, said on July 16 that "Martial law ought to be proclaimed, but I have not a sufficient force to enforce it."[8]
New York City draft riots

The riots remain the largest civil and racial insurrection in American history, aside from the Civil War itself.
Now tell me again about the myth that the North during the Civil War cared about the plight of Black people.
66 posted on 06/17/2017 7:33:37 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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So, why did FIVE SLAVE STATES stay in the Union? Some were still slave states after the war and only gave it up after the 13th Amendment was ratified.
Last flag to fly over legal slavery was the Stars and Stripes.


73 posted on 06/17/2017 7:43:22 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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The slavery component was introduced long after the war began to help foster moral support for Lincoln’s goals.


98 posted on 06/17/2017 8:50:18 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: FreedomStar3028

The war had many causes.


101 posted on 06/17/2017 8:57:25 PM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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100% wrong. Why did Lincoln offer the slave states an amendment to the Constitution that would guarantee slavery where it legally existed then?


207 posted on 06/18/2017 9:31:37 AM PDT by Tommy Revolts (Revolution)
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The North didn't go to war specifically to end slavery, it went to war to preserve the Union and won. Lincoln freed the slaves for a moral purpose on one hand and on the other because more troops were needed to replace the huge losses the North had been suffering. The South definitely went to war to preserve slavery and in the end lost everything.
219 posted on 06/18/2017 2:03:37 PM PDT by jmacusa (Dad may be in charge but mom knows whats going on.)
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To: FreedomStar3028
Ya I’m not sure why people on FR say the Civil War wasn’t about slavery.

I can tell you why. Because they studied history and realized the "official" narrative doesn't make any sense.

Yes, it was. 100%. If the North hadn’t wanted to get rid of slavery, the South would never have seceded.

So why did it take the Union an extra six months after the war to get rid of Slavery themselves?

469 posted on 07/04/2017 3:14:26 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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