Trump breaks campaign promise to deport Dreamers

The Hill ^ | 6/16/2016 | Max Greenwood

[i_robot73]

> I don’t know. But if you have a ‘dreamer’ who has already received a few hundred thousand dollars of education (or what generally passes for it) at the taxpayer’s expense and actually seems to want to be a good citizen, particularly if they came over here not of their own volition? If you want everything in black and white, fine, not everyone does in instances such as this. I’m sure there are some who are fine people *AND* we’ve already paid to educate them. Maybe stipulate a term of service in the armed forces.... I wish I was as certain of absolute black and whites in regarding people brought here as children as you and many others... > Well, it's sure B&W when it comes to enforcing the Law upon the Citizens of this country. Even worse for the TAX PAYERS (try 'owing' $.01). So, yes, IMO, it IS B&W; or the Law be rescinded. NOT changed, since they didn't enforce the original to begin.

[StAnDeliver]

"But if you have a ‘dreamer’ who has already received a few hundred thousand dollars of education (or what generally passes for it) at the taxpayer’s expense and actually seems to want to be a good citizen, particularly if they came over here not of their own volition?"

Because they skipped over literally thousands and thousands of people who are legally in line with green cards, who came from Poland or Korea or Sri Lanka, who are trying to bring their families over, and hoping they can make enough to stay here long enough to become legal citizens under the legal immigration rules. And then bring their families. Proximity does not excuse claim-jumping. Poverty does not excuse claim-jumping.

"If you want everything in black and white, fine, not everyone does in instances such as this. I’m sure there are some who are fine people *AND* we’ve already paid to educate them. Maybe stipulate a term of service in the armed forces...."

Maybe send their well-educated, well-fed arses back to the country of origination, and build a middle class there. Lessons to be drawn here from the end of Pax Romana

[StAnDeliver]

"No he’s not. Unless you’re Obama."

No, it's a creature of EO, which precedes Bobo and Trump by about 228 years...

Trump can say x now, and y later in a day/month/year in another Friday news dump.

Trump can rewrite / modify / rescind / staple / fold / bend DACA/Dreamers whenever and however he wants - it's a perk of the office.

Right now this non-decision today was based on bad advice by Congressional cowards who feared the rescission.

Even then, Trump could decide, on the eve of mid-term elections 2018, to tell all Dreamers to get out.

[Ray76]

DACA is not an EO.

> No, it’s a creature of EO, which precedes Bobo and Trump by about 228 years...

What? Have you lost your mind?

[Luircin]

You never answered the question other than self righteous virtue signalling. And lots of whining.

How would you deal with the political fallout? How would you deal with the logistics? Which bills would you sacrifice in order to pay for the support you’d lose from Congressional cucks?

Answer the question instead of wetting your panties all over FR.

[little jeremiah]

Anyone who takes ANY MSM outlet aka “Fake News” at face value as though it’s the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth is either stupider than a ziplock bag full of dirt or wants to peel support off of Trump.

BTW, all you ever do on FR is slam Trump. Your trolldom is getting really disgusting.

[Reno89519]

You are clueless, but not surprising. Whatever, guess a few idiots get mixed in with people intelligent enough to carry on a conversation. Maybe you might sit back and read for a while instead of embarrass yourself further.

[little jeremiah]

LOL...

Everyone here can see exactly what you are doing.

I suppose it’s within the realm of possibility that you might occasionally post a comment which isn’t criticizing Trump, but I haven’t seen any; but then I don’t search out your comments.

[FourtySeven]

You obviously lack the intellectual integrity to admit the fundamental issue is not your irrelevant questions, but rather that Trump PROMISED something he had NO intention to deliver, IF your tortuous, mealy-mouthed, ham-handed “logic” is correct.

If it’s NOT correct, if the convolution you implicitly admit that “immediately doesn’t really mean immediately” is not what Trump planned and implied all along, and thus Trump has no fourth dimensional chess game in the works as you imply, then he’s just a liar and so are you for not admitting a simple mistake.

I have ZERO time for intellectually dishonest people such as yourself, if you do not admit that he should not have used the word “immediately” when referring to his promised rescinding of DACA. That’s all I’m saying, not that I don’t appreciate his rescinding of DAPA (I do) but that he should not have said he’d “immediately” rescind DACA if he had no intention of doing so “immediately”. If you can’t see that I have no time for you.

Now, go and have the precious last word we both know you desperately need for your self identity to remain intact; it will prove nothing of substance however. We both know that too, as does everyone else reading this I can assure you.

[trebb]

Then I offer my apologies for the donations comments. Still stand by the concern troll comments.