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CNO: Navy ‘Taking a Hard Look at Bringing Back Oliver Hazard Perry Frigates ...
USNI News ^ | JUNE 13, 2017 | Sam LaGrone

Posted on 06/13/2017 9:21:37 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

Studies are underway to “take a hard look” at putting eight mothballed Oliver Hazard Perry frigates back into service as well as extending the life of existing Arleigh Burke guided-missile destroyers to help the Navy reach its goal of a 355-ship fleet, Chief of Naval Operations Adm. John Richardson said on Tuesday.

Speaking before an audience at the U.S. Naval War College, Richardson said service leaders were looking at “every trick” to put more platforms into the fleet including bringing back some Perrys into service.

“We’re taking a hard look at the Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigates. There’s seven or eight of those that we could take a look at but those are some old ships and everything on these ships is old… a lot has changed since we last modernized those,” Richardson said in a response to an audience question on how the Navy’s inactive reserve fleet could be used to grow the fleet. “It’ll be a cost benefit analysis in terms of how we do that. The other part is how we do life extension and how do we plan to keep them out of mothballs longer. That’s going to be money in the bank if we do that.”

He said early looks at extending the planned service life of the Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyers could help the service reach a 355 total ten to 15 years faster.

“If we plan now, for instance, to extend the life Arleigh Burke DDGs beyond the current projections, the initial returns are we could buy ten to 15 years to the left in terms of reaching that 350 ship goal,” he said.

In follow-up tweets to his remarks at the Current Strategy Forum, Richardson and a Navy spokesperson stressed the service was still in the early stages of formulating how it would reach the 355 ship goal and that the progress on the life extension program was more mature than reactivating the frigates.

USS Reuben James (FFG-57) in 2012.

US Navy Photo

The service – currently at 275 ships – determined late last year that it needed to grow to 355 ships by the mid-2020s to keep a U.S. advantage over adversaries like Russia and China.

“It’s clear to get beyond that we’re going to have to start building, we’re going to have to build ships,” Richardson wrote in a white paper issued last month. “And we’re going to have to look at extending the life of ships, we’re going to have to look at just about every way we can to increase our inventory of ships in the United States Navy.”

One naval analyst told USNI News on Tuesday considering reactivating the frigates was a sign of the stress the current fleet is under.

“The fact that this is being considered speaks to the strength and utility of the Perry-class frigate design, as well as the strain being felt by the fleet,” Eric Wertheim, author of U.S. Naval Institute’s Combat Fleets of the World, told USNI News on Tuesday.

“While increasing maintenance and shipbuilding funding could help alleviate some of these challenges in the future, near term gaps still need to be addressed more immediately. Returning retired vessels to the fleet could potentially be one near-term solution, and it sounds like it is now being considered – among other options.”

Bryan Clark, a naval analyst at the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments and former aide to retired former Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Jonathan Greenert, told USNI News that the missions for the frigates would be limited and the cost would be high in reintroducing them to the fleet.

“The Perry class are going to be an expensive proposition to bring out of mothballs and maintain just for the purpose of going out and doing some presence missions,” Clark said. “You’re talking about having to come up with a 150 billets for each of those ships out of an already stressed manpower pool. They’re also not going to offer that much in terms of combat capability. So if you bring them back, they’re essentially going to be like how they were when they left the fleet, which was as a theater security cooperation, maritime security asset.”

The last Perry left U.S. service in 2015 with the bulk of the class set aside for foreign military sale or dismantling.

Originally designed as a guided missile frigate, the class was a key platform for the U.S. during the Iran-Iraq War in the late 1980s and later was a key platform for anti-drug trafficking operations in U.S. Southern Command.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: frigate; navy; oliverhazardperry; usn; warship
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1 posted on 06/13/2017 9:21:38 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Renovation is probably best with more expensive ships like nuclear subs. Trump can figure out if it would be cost effective.


2 posted on 06/13/2017 9:27:19 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "CHAOS AND MAYHEM" at Amazon.com)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Small is the new big. These were designed for cold war operations. I’m sure a good refit of a dozen or so would be good to have.


3 posted on 06/13/2017 9:39:15 PM PDT by Fhios
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To: Fhios

Limited combat power now. Not much more than an LCS - but more durable


4 posted on 06/13/2017 9:45:53 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (for the night is dark and full of terrorists)
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To: dfwgator

Didn’t one of these sink the Red October?

I know a guy who said he heard the torpedo hit the hull and Darth Vader was never there.


5 posted on 06/13/2017 10:10:10 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Hebrews 13:2 Do not forget to entertain strangers, for ... some have unwittingly entertained angels)
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To: SaveFerris

Didn’t one of these sink the Red October?

I know a guy who said he heard the torpedo hit the hull and Darth Vader was never there.


It was probably one of those “pings” that he heard. Lol


6 posted on 06/13/2017 10:14:19 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives.have diseased minds.)
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To: Oztrich Boy
Limited combat power now. Not much more than an LCS

Yep, always thought that was a lot of ship to carry so little armament, the LCS more so in spades.

7 posted on 06/13/2017 10:38:04 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Nope... Sell 15 of them to Allies and then build 2 new ones.


8 posted on 06/13/2017 10:51:43 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (I remember when 100% of scientists agreed there were only 2 genders.)
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To: arrogantsob

The USS Nautilus is still in Connecticut. LOL


9 posted on 06/14/2017 1:21:14 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: doorgunner69

Basically all the current OHP class has is one three inch gun, torpedo tubes and helicopter and a CIWS. Much more than the LCS which has no ASW weapons other than the helicopter. The missile system which provides AAW and some anti surface capability was deactivated and removed a decade ago.
And they are old, perhaps a decade of life left, but at what cost versus a newer class.

The Russians make some splendid small warships, for example;
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steregushchiy-class_corvette
https://youtu.be/u-DY5-4iXs4


10 posted on 06/14/2017 2:49:25 AM PDT by Wildbill22 ( They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton William Abramsp)
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To: Wildbill22

Also the Spanish. The USA has not kept up, and the LCS is a disaster.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%81lvaro_de_Baz%C3%A1n-class_frigate


11 posted on 06/14/2017 3:51:09 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I hope these are not the frigates you see from the freeway as you pass through Philadelphia. Those look like they are in advanced states of being dismantled.


12 posted on 06/14/2017 4:55:14 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
And USS Constitution is still in Boston.

Wood = Stealth. 8-)

13 posted on 06/14/2017 5:11:35 AM PDT by Pecos (Actual justice must be defended against the newspeak of social justice crybullies.)
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To: Fhios

Only Subs and these frigs can keep up with carriers, a lot of people don’t know that.

They are really fast, but they take a lot of time to get underway but once they are they are very fast


14 posted on 06/14/2017 5:35:37 AM PDT by dila813 (Voting for Trump to Punish Trumpets!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Klakring and Kauffman were in my CVBG in ‘89. Great ships and crew!


15 posted on 06/14/2017 5:37:33 AM PDT by paddles ("The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." Tacitus)
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To: Fhios
I’m sure a good refit of a dozen or so would be good to have.

For what? Their SAM system was obsolete and removed years ago. Their electronics are dated. What purpose would they serve? What mission would they fill?

16 posted on 06/14/2017 5:40:08 AM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: sukhoi-30mki

That’s nice. Are there bodies enough to man them? The world wonders.


17 posted on 06/14/2017 5:56:46 AM PDT by pa_dweller (President Donald Trump, President Donald Trump. Because I know you like seeing it.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Single screw... difficult in backing... I seem to recall the skipper of the Samuel B Roberts, stating he couldn’t back down his wake because of that.


18 posted on 06/14/2017 7:27:23 AM PDT by Robe (A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: dila813

All the Spruance class have been put away. They can keep up with CVs, and they make enough hot water that there are usually no water hours. Chopper capable, ASW design, and initially Harpoons. Last time I rode one was in 1989, so don’t know what upgrades they have had, but that is my choice for recommissioning. They also have two screws, so maneuvering is good. Draft is somewhat of a problem in littoral waters due to sonar dome.


19 posted on 06/14/2017 10:08:36 AM PDT by grwcfl537
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To: Travis McGee

I would think ditching the remaining LCS and Zumwalts and building some upgraded Arleigh Burkes would be the way to go in this regard.


20 posted on 06/14/2017 11:52:04 AM PDT by sarge83
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