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CNO: Navy ‘Taking a Hard Look at Bringing Back Oliver Hazard Perry Frigates ...
USNI News ^ | JUNE 13, 2017 | Sam LaGrone

Posted on 06/13/2017 9:21:37 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

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1 posted on 06/13/2017 9:21:38 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Renovation is probably best with more expensive ships like nuclear subs. Trump can figure out if it would be cost effective.


2 posted on 06/13/2017 9:27:19 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "CHAOS AND MAYHEM" at Amazon.com)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Small is the new big. These were designed for cold war operations. I’m sure a good refit of a dozen or so would be good to have.


3 posted on 06/13/2017 9:39:15 PM PDT by Fhios
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To: Fhios

Limited combat power now. Not much more than an LCS - but more durable


4 posted on 06/13/2017 9:45:53 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (for the night is dark and full of terrorists)
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To: dfwgator

Didn’t one of these sink the Red October?

I know a guy who said he heard the torpedo hit the hull and Darth Vader was never there.


5 posted on 06/13/2017 10:10:10 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Hebrews 13:2 Do not forget to entertain strangers, for ... some have unwittingly entertained angels)
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Didn’t one of these sink the Red October?

I know a guy who said he heard the torpedo hit the hull and Darth Vader was never there.


It was probably one of those “pings” that he heard. Lol


6 posted on 06/13/2017 10:14:19 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives.have diseased minds.)
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To: Oztrich Boy
Limited combat power now. Not much more than an LCS

Yep, always thought that was a lot of ship to carry so little armament, the LCS more so in spades.

7 posted on 06/13/2017 10:38:04 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Nope... Sell 15 of them to Allies and then build 2 new ones.


8 posted on 06/13/2017 10:51:43 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (I remember when 100% of scientists agreed there were only 2 genders.)
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To: arrogantsob

The USS Nautilus is still in Connecticut. LOL


9 posted on 06/14/2017 1:21:14 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: doorgunner69

Basically all the current OHP class has is one three inch gun, torpedo tubes and helicopter and a CIWS. Much more than the LCS which has no ASW weapons other than the helicopter. The missile system which provides AAW and some anti surface capability was deactivated and removed a decade ago.
And they are old, perhaps a decade of life left, but at what cost versus a newer class.

The Russians make some splendid small warships, for example;
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steregushchiy-class_corvette
https://youtu.be/u-DY5-4iXs4


10 posted on 06/14/2017 2:49:25 AM PDT by Wildbill22 ( They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton William Abramsp)
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Also the Spanish. The USA has not kept up, and the LCS is a disaster.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%81lvaro_de_Baz%C3%A1n-class_frigate


11 posted on 06/14/2017 3:51:09 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I hope these are not the frigates you see from the freeway as you pass through Philadelphia. Those look like they are in advanced states of being dismantled.


12 posted on 06/14/2017 4:55:14 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
And USS Constitution is still in Boston.

Wood = Stealth. 8-)

13 posted on 06/14/2017 5:11:35 AM PDT by Pecos (Actual justice must be defended against the newspeak of social justice crybullies.)
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To: Fhios

Only Subs and these frigs can keep up with carriers, a lot of people don’t know that.

They are really fast, but they take a lot of time to get underway but once they are they are very fast


14 posted on 06/14/2017 5:35:37 AM PDT by dila813 (Voting for Trump to Punish Trumpets!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Klakring and Kauffman were in my CVBG in ‘89. Great ships and crew!


15 posted on 06/14/2017 5:37:33 AM PDT by paddles ("The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." Tacitus)
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To: Fhios
I’m sure a good refit of a dozen or so would be good to have.

For what? Their SAM system was obsolete and removed years ago. Their electronics are dated. What purpose would they serve? What mission would they fill?

16 posted on 06/14/2017 5:40:08 AM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: sukhoi-30mki

That’s nice. Are there bodies enough to man them? The world wonders.


17 posted on 06/14/2017 5:56:46 AM PDT by pa_dweller (President Donald Trump, President Donald Trump. Because I know you like seeing it.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Single screw... difficult in backing... I seem to recall the skipper of the Samuel B Roberts, stating he couldn’t back down his wake because of that.


18 posted on 06/14/2017 7:27:23 AM PDT by Robe (A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: dila813

All the Spruance class have been put away. They can keep up with CVs, and they make enough hot water that there are usually no water hours. Chopper capable, ASW design, and initially Harpoons. Last time I rode one was in 1989, so don’t know what upgrades they have had, but that is my choice for recommissioning. They also have two screws, so maneuvering is good. Draft is somewhat of a problem in littoral waters due to sonar dome.


19 posted on 06/14/2017 10:08:36 AM PDT by grwcfl537
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To: Travis McGee

I would think ditching the remaining LCS and Zumwalts and building some upgraded Arleigh Burkes would be the way to go in this regard.


20 posted on 06/14/2017 11:52:04 AM PDT by sarge83
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