Posted on 06/09/2017 12:48:42 PM PDT by LSUfan
Thoughts — history suggests Japan failed to press their advantage in Hawaii. An advantage that might have at least delayed the US in rebuilding the Navy and starting the eventual island campaign. Then again, Japan would have been better served by not attacking the US but rather consolidating their Asian conquests. China will be cautious or use surrogates (Norks) if they see a need to confront the US militarily.
we didn’t win the cold war by losing in Vietnam. We won the cold war by following George Kennan’s Containment grand strategy. A wag once called it winning with Blue Jeans, Rock & Roll, and Big Blonds. Whenever we strayed from containment we failed.
trying to the frame the question as one of heros versus cowards is childish at best and totalitarian at worst. Only totalitarian regimes have warrior cults.
trying to frame the question as left pacifists versus right militarists is also weak. Truman & Kennedy were both Democrats.
trying to make the argument ‘we need to fight them there otherwise they’ll invade us’ is impossible. We have been over there for 15 years and all it’s done it create lots more bad guys.
It takes real courage to realize blowing sh*t up in sandland is counterproductive. It takes real courage to conclude we’ve squandered trillions and countless lives. It takes real courage to accept throwing more blood and treasure out there isn’t making us safer, isn’t protecting anyone, and sure isn’t winning any hearts&minds.
The covered bitch who checked me out at the local Whole Foods is the vanguard.
The idea is, we should become comfortable with Sharia-supremacists living peacefully among us and learning our democratic ways to defeat us.
the ‘covered bitch’ will see her daughters wearing halter tops, stilettos and drinking keg beer out of plastic cups.
The ‘vanguard’ ??? Do you really believe our culture is so weak and undesirable that we need to be terrified that the ‘vanguard’ will convert our youth to their ways ?
Too funny man. Way too funny
That's what I used to think.
But the reality is, jihadism skips generations.
E.g., the parents may have assimilated, but the children are alienated, and reaching out to the Prophet, commit a minor atrocity.
Add to that, the American Left sees the jihadists as allies (enemy of my enemy is my friend) and, therefore, facilitates the jihadists' integration into American political life.
the covered bitch may or may not be middle eastern. very easily could be a Midwestern swede by ethnicity.
LOL
indeed, in my SoCal RC church in the early 1960s more than 1/2 the women wore headscarves.
1. When it ended, I was 10 years old.
2. When I joined the Army, most of my senior leadership were VN vets. I heard stories.
3. Try “fight as a nation like [insert war here]”, which was my meaning...but I suspect you knew that.
"Containment?" Really? By the vooch theory of nouveau isolationism, world problems just fester away in their own sectors on the other side of the world and nobody has to ruffle a hair on their heads, the problem will just go away on its own.
Remember how well "containment" went with Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan? Oh, that's right - we ended up in that anyway, didn't we? And everything was a whole lot bigger by the time we finally got into it, didn't it?
"Containment" might have worked back when long-range missiles hadn't been invented yet and our own home-grown traitors hadn't handed the Soviets nukes and we hadn't grown big enough or influential enough to need allies - but that changed, didn't it? "Containment" was what we were doing in Korea in the '50s and in Vietnam in the '60s. Nice to know that you think it was all unnecessary now, even though you supposedly espouse the Kenney doctrine.
Hiding our heads in the sand won't work anymore, probably never did. Remember Jefferson and the Barbary Pirates? Wars come to us, eventually. It's the price of being here.
You can spout all you want about how things will be dandy if we just stay at home but if you're at all rational, you know full well that if the Taliban are allowed to take over Afghanistan again and/or ISIS is allowed to go unchecked, more innocent people all over the world are going to die.
How are your opinions any different from the Left? They think everything will go away if the bad 'ol US just dries up and blows away. All of this is to excuse your own lack of gumption, isn't it?
My own story is here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3552686/posts
This is so TRUE!.
My mother, with only an 8th grade education, told me at the time--this is a political war being fought by politicians. She was so right.
Thanks to the Democrats of that era, we left, we betrayed the South Vietnamese when the North invaded in '75, and as a result over three million people were slaughtered by the Communists in SE Asia in the ensuing years.
John Kerry and Jane Fonda and their ilk bear the responsibility for that.
Our troops fought well under horrible conditions, and for their efforts were spat upon and maligned upon their return home.
Note how all of the demonstrations dried up when Nixon stopped the draft.
These same Leftist cells are opposing anything we do around the world now and are the vicious center of the efforts against President Trump.
indeed, in my SoCal RC church in the early 1960s more than 1/2 the women wore headscarves.
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the rest wore hats or little doileys
when the taliban ruled unhindered, heroin didn’t flow on American streets.
ISIS is a minuscule guerilla band. If you honestly believe ISIS represents a threat to the USofA, then you must believe we are weak and helpless.
Government Schools really fed you the FDR shillboth that America First = Isolation. Hardly.
Hey Voochy - where did al Qaeda train and operate from before 9/11?
ISIS isn’t a problem worldwide?
News to all of us, voochie.
if you are so correct, then why can’t we get a Declaration of War from Congress ?
ISIS is a trivial threat. It’s a sign of weakness that you believe we need to expend vast amounts of blood & treasure going after what amounts to a mafia level organization. I bet there are some Drug Cartels with more military ability than ISIS.
Never heard of the massacres in Paris, Brussels, Manchester, London, or even San Bernardino?
Hiding under the bed really isn't an option.
You need to get out more. When you do, remember to carry a rifle.
hilarious - my work took me in every nook and crany the world has to offer. Spent much of my childhood overseas with the ‘rents.
Even more hilarious that you equate mature reflection with cowardice and reckless paranoia with heroism
1.People all over the world are fascinating, charming, and interesting
2. The last thing on Earth you would ever want is to have them in power over you.
"Mature reflection"? Advocating capitulation isn't mature reflection, it's idiotic. Capitulation means to surrender - ask the French how well that worked out for them.
Sorry about your non-arrival to manhood - courage means facing misery, injury, and maybe death in the service of your family, your community and your country. Courage is not thinking of all the clever things you can do to stay out of doing your duty.
"Paranoia is just common sense when somebody's really after you".
LOL
you should read Marine Gen. Butler highest decorated officer on the subject of service to Washington Pols.
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