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16-Year-Old Commits Suicide After School Cop Threatens Him with Child Porn Charges
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| May. 24, 2017 9:25 am
| Robby Soave
Posted on 05/24/2017 1:06:36 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments
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To: Forgotten Amendments
In Illinois, a person commits the offense of child pornography by videotaping or photographing anyone he or she should know is under the age of 18 and who is engaged in any sexual act or in any pose involving lewd exhibition of unclothed or transparently clothed genitals, pubic area, buttocks, or female breast
There is no exception for taking pictures of oneself.
Thus, a 17-year-old who snaps his or her own revealing picture has technically created child pornography, a Class 1 felony with a mandatory fine of between $2,000 and $100,000 and at least four years in prison.It would not be a crime if the teen were 18.
In Illinois - see sections V. A.& B. about when & where & how LEO types can question.
"https://www.iasb.com/law/ICSAGuidelinesforInterviewsofStudents2015.pdf"
There's not enough in this article to determine if it was done right
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posted on
05/24/2017 1:47:37 PM PDT
by
stylin19a
(Terrorists - "just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there")
To: conservative98
Was $#@$@#$ing and filming it such behavior?
No.
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posted on
05/24/2017 1:48:03 PM PDT
by
the OlLine Rebel
(Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
To: SkyDancer
#2:
"Consenting kids = child porn" Who knows what a "kid" is these days. When six-foot-two, 250 pound fifteen year old thugs "teens" "youths" and "youngsters" routinely rob, rape, and murder, who is to say.
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posted on
05/24/2017 1:48:40 PM PDT
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posted on
05/24/2017 1:49:12 PM PDT
by
DoughtyOne
(Happy days are here again!)
To: Forgotten Amendments
I’d be ready to say it doezens of times. We don’t consider punishment that fits crime in this country anymore. Everything now has to be over the top in being punitive. Policies that allow this type of abuse are also unjust.
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posted on
05/24/2017 1:49:59 PM PDT
by
Bayard
To: Forgotten Amendments
OK, it doesn’t really constitute child porn, esp. when the “perp” is a child.
But for once I’d like to see a story about a truly innocent person, from this story to the black-police-tension BLM stuff.
Promising? Filming while @$#@$!ing in pre-marital sin? Yeah, great guy.
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posted on
05/24/2017 1:50:29 PM PDT
by
the OlLine Rebel
(Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
To: Forgotten Amendments
The Amazing Kreskin sees mommy filing a lawsuit and the stupid school district giving her a few mill to go away.
He also sees that maybe Corey knew about a lot more evidence than this one incident.
To: Responsibility2nd
If the kid hadn’t made the sex tape, none of this would have happened. What’s wrong with just having fond memories?
If kids aren’t capable of giving consent to sex they damn sure aren’t capable of using good judgement before pressing the REC button.
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posted on
05/24/2017 1:51:21 PM PDT
by
bigbob
(People say believe half of what you see son and none of what you hear - M. Gaye)
To: rlmorel
I wouldn't mind having that healthy body capable of running and jumping, but...if I had to go back and live it again and have to learn lessons the same way again...no. Never.Same on all.
Kids do dumb ass stuff. I know 'cause I was one of them. Adults, too, old and young. I got into my mischief mostly at 18 to 21...I was a bit older than most. I'm not saying no consequences for kids. I'm not saying that at all. But school officials and cops should not be allowed to take advantage of young people. They should know their brains are different.
Here's one from 2007 that Dennis Prager got involved with:
Teens facing sex charges for butt slaps
To: the OlLine Rebel
“OK, it doesnt really constitute child porn, esp. when the perp is a child.”
You do understand that the girl who was was having sex with does have the right to be protected by the law?
To: Timpanagos1
Since the girl was in on it too are they going to charge her with a felony have her register as a sex offender for life? They might as well ruin two lives.
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posted on
05/24/2017 1:55:12 PM PDT
by
Husker24
To: Timpanagos1
Yep, and I fully acknowledge that kids should have consequences, but school officials and admins use their positions to intimidate kids. They know most of them aren’t going to know their rights. This boy hadn’t been convicted of anything. He was accused.
To: Timpanagos1
She is guilty of making “child porn” too.
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posted on
05/24/2017 1:58:26 PM PDT
by
TigersEye
(Make up my mind, NBC,CBS,CNN,ABC. What are the "facts" today?)
To: FR_addict
My view on this is not that what the kid did was right (and I agree his upbringing has to be faulty for him to film it and show it to others) it is that even the most dimwitted kid knows the seriousness of being charged with child pornography. It isn’t the same as shoplifting or spray painting a wall.
Sex offenses, particularly those involving children, will follow you for life. You will be ostracized. You will be on lists. Anywhere you go, your neighbors will know about you. Your employers will know about you. Kids today know all this, they see it on the news and the Internet constantly. Even a 16 year old kid knows what would be in store, and he obviously didn’t have the emotional maturity to know they probably weren’t going to charge him for child pornography. As far as he was concerned, his life was ending. He was a stupid, immature kid.
I make the mistake more than anyone in thinking that kids will respond to things the way adults do, which is patently wrong.
I think it was a terrible decision for an adult to even attempt that approach with a young kid. And I think they should be called to account for it.
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posted on
05/24/2017 2:00:20 PM PDT
by
rlmorel
(President Donald J. Trump ... Making Liberal Heads Explode, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: Timpanagos1
It’s hard to describe this as “child porn”, when it was consensual and they are both under 18, within 4 years of each other.
I do appreciate her “right to privacy”, but how that involves “child porn”, I do not rightly know.
If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime - screwing, filming or anything else.
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posted on
05/24/2017 2:02:02 PM PDT
by
the OlLine Rebel
(Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
To: beaversmom
I think we agree on this (see my last post).
There is so much about this that is wrong on all counts. It is things like this that make me feel that I have no idea how we got here.
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posted on
05/24/2017 2:02:22 PM PDT
by
rlmorel
(President Donald J. Trump ... Making Liberal Heads Explode, 140 Characters at a Time)
To: beaversmom
We seem to constantly excuse “children” of all ages with some pablum about “it’s a stage”, including adolescents.
BS.
Read up on teens 100, 200 years ago. People had much higher expectations of them and they filled it. Hell, there was no “teenager” then. No such term.
Truth is we keep treating everyone like babies and they fulfill THAT. This crap that teens are “different” has to stop. They CAN learn and CAN control themselves.
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posted on
05/24/2017 2:05:48 PM PDT
by
the OlLine Rebel
(Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
To: TigersEye
He made his choices and he is responsible for his actions. And he was a minor. The school authorities are responsible for their actions too ... unless you have some snowflake exception that you grant them.
______________________________________________________
Huh?
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posted on
05/24/2017 2:07:50 PM PDT
by
Bishop_Malachi
(Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
To: Forgotten Amendments
I'm sorry. No sympathy. Were he arrested and jailed I would be POed. I am skeptical about the "child porn" thing. That is another legal definition that has, as always with these things been stretched to cover anything else that might possibly have some fourth degree tangential relation with the original definition, like RICO.But for the boy? He transgressed a basic feature of a Christian based society. He understood that at some level but there is no concept of confession and repentance left for the PC culture.
Suicide is a phenomenon that will increase among the snowflake generations. The whole world is just too much to take for them. Some react violently. I am sure an increasing number of them will simply not be able to take the horror of reality and will exit finally.
I don't even sympathize with the parents. They raised the snowflake. They contributed mightily to his character.
If the parents actually cared or about their child as a developing human being he would not have been in public school in the first place.
And that "resource officer?" Of course there must be armed guards in a prison, even a "day" prison. And guards will act as guards are trained to do.
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posted on
05/24/2017 2:08:55 PM PDT
by
arthurus
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