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A recruitment war is coming
Fox News ^ | 05/20/2017 | Bob Funk

Posted on 05/20/2017 9:55:22 AM PDT by ForYourChildren

As Washington debates what actions to take to rev up economic growth, the free-market private sector, which waits for no one, is witnessing the beginning of a new trend.

For a decade, America has been a tale of two economies: a strong one for skilled workers and a worrisome, poor one for workers without skills. The gap, however, is now diminishing, as low unemployment, rising expectations and economic reality are causing a recruitment war to begin, a war that’s good for workers, including those with no skills.

I hear it from employers across the country – if they don’t raise wages, offer more opportunities for training and career advancement or improve their work environments, they can’t keep their workforce.

At long last, the marketplace is shifting from an employers’ market to a workers’ market. The implications run deep.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: economy; employment; jobs; jobsjobsjobs; maga; second100days; trump; trumpeconomy
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To: Organic Panic

What a joke! A PhD making 45 k. I make more then that working construction


21 posted on 05/20/2017 10:38:08 AM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: ForYourChildren

Not sure about that. Many lib acquaintances (I have no lib friends) assure me that Carter was our best President. I tell them “maybe yours... not mine.”


22 posted on 05/20/2017 10:38:12 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: Windflier

I think the President knows this. It’s congress that doesn’t get it.


23 posted on 05/20/2017 10:43:11 AM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them.)
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To: Organic Panic

Sorry but i need to call BS on this. The job description you list is either wrong or written by an idiot. An aero eng right out of college who can obtain a secret clearance will start for Lockheed Martin in Fort Worth’s Aeronautics Business Unit at over 60k. One with 25 years of CFD will bring well over 130k. If he is a stress and structures loads guy with 10 yrs exp he will make over 100k. Not a one of these guys will ever set foot on the manufacturing floor so manufacturing exp is a who cares. What is listed in the JD you reference is about 3 jobs not one. Even in Lockheed’s Space Systems company everything I say above applies. If you have any of these skills you should be applying to jobs with Northrop on the long range bomber program in FLA and OK.


24 posted on 05/20/2017 10:43:22 AM PDT by superfries
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To: ForYourChildren

After eight years of continuous negative job growth, Trump has a big hole to dig us out of. The Great Recession started only after it became clear to the job creators that a communist was about to steal the White House (the scale of the election fraud in 2008 was massive), which caused a panic. OZero’s lead in the polls caused the recession and the financial crisis of 2008. And the economy just went farther down after that.

It didn’t help that we entirely stopped guarding the border and deporting illegals — and started passing out free computers, free food, free cell phones, free medical care and free housing to every one of them. Meanwhile, Ozero was openly building in time on his daily schedule for his Muslim prayers, something the compliant MSM refused to mention.


25 posted on 05/20/2017 10:43:35 AM PDT by GodAndCountryFirst
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To: virgil
I have found that a lot of companies shy away from employees over the age of fifty for two reasons:

1. They usually demand higher pay than employees 20-30 years younger with comparable skills.

2. People in this age bracket drive up their medical insurance costs.

Both of these can be easily addressed in many cases. I have clamored for years to have medical insurance separated completely from employment. This will eliminate the employer's cost differential in Item #2 among different age groups. Item #1 can be addressed when people over the age of 50 can demonstrate value in terms of experience and wisdom (and often work ethic, too) that younger people don't have.

26 posted on 05/20/2017 10:49:49 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: numberonepal

Believe it. PhD in Chemical with a long history of righting sinking technical ships and making companies tons of $$$...have not had a call back in about a year. Nada, zero, zip, zilch. I am now looking at positions that are 1/3 of my peak salary. I have no intentions of retiring in my mid-50s, but I am starting to think that I have no real choice.


27 posted on 05/20/2017 10:54:12 AM PDT by fuente (Liberty resides in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box and the cartridge box--Fredrick Douglas)
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To: superfries
Not a one of these guys will ever set foot

Just wanted to say thank you for saying "set foot" instead of "step foot."

28 posted on 05/20/2017 10:55:34 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: glasseye
the ‘employer class’ and the ‘political donor class’ stand to remain wealthy if they can keep wages artificially low.

That may be true for mega companies like Tyson Foods, but not for small businesses like mine, who have practically been decimated by the invasion of illegals into the workforce.

I've had to lower my retail prices by almost 50% over the last ten years, just to stay competitive with others who use illegal labor. Imagine a fifty percent pay cut over the prior ten years, and how that would have impacted your family. You wouldn't want to live through it, I'll tell you that.

29 posted on 05/20/2017 10:55:56 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: superfries

The job poster doesn’t expect anyone to apply; they’re looking to justify an H1b visa application.


30 posted on 05/20/2017 11:09:13 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: virgil
I think the President knows this.

You sure about that?

He seems to be very big on deporting the "bad hombres", but not so keen on kicking out the illegals who've been stealing my family's income since Bush was in office.

Why isn't he pushing E-Verify? Why isn't he cracking down on employers who hire illegal workers? Why isn't he directing ICE to conduct raids on large construction sites (which are chock full of illegals)?

I appreciate the fact that he's rounding up MS-13 gangsters, but what about the border jumpers who are doing immediate harm to my business and my family? They're no better than common thieves, robbing me at gunpoint, and nothing's being done about it.

Now my blood pressure's up, I'm so mad.

31 posted on 05/20/2017 11:14:09 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: ForYourChildren

I am waiting for Hussein to claim credit for the recovery when it becomes impossible to deny. He and they will say that Hussein painstakingly created the conditions for the recovery that is now coming to flower in spite of all the destructive things Trump is doing. That will become endlessly repeated Gospel in the MSM.


32 posted on 05/20/2017 11:20:48 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: Alberta's Child
There is another reason - employers are keenly aware that a human being's ability to learn new skills begins to diminish rapidly after age 40. In this economy, where an updated skill set is required almost every year, age is a much bigger liability than experience is a benefit.

I don't see this changing - so it's important that we teach young people that their "big company years" are an apprenticeship. They should strive to be running their own businesses by their late 30's. I expect within ten years, the Fortune 500 will be virtually devoid of age 40+ workers outside of certain senior management roles.

33 posted on 05/20/2017 11:21:25 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: ForYourChildren
Actually it is worse. People have a hard time seeing it that way because there are no breadlines. Actually there are breadlines and they are much more extensive than they were in the 30s. People now line up at home waiting for their EBT cards to be refilled. We just took the lines off the street.

A big difference economically is that now the breadlines not only feed hordes of poor and "poor" people but they provide the livings for countless bureaucrats at the same time and those bureaucrats are working hard to ensure that the breadlines continue and grow no matter what develops in the economy because those breadlines are their breadlines.

34 posted on 05/20/2017 11:27:13 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: arthurus

EBT also keeps retail food prices up. Without EBT, demand and prices would drop, and those that actually pay for their food with money they earned would see lower prices.

It is not right that the gov’t is bidding against working consumers for food.


35 posted on 05/20/2017 11:32:54 AM PDT by wrench
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To: ForYourChildren

So far not longer sustained. We are only at 9 years now. The 30s Depression actually did not end until the Eisenhower recovery in the 50s. During the War we had Full Employment, but we were no better off economically than we had been before the war. The slogans were the same- “use it up,” “wear it out,” “make it do.” Everything was rationed because there was not enough to go around. We produced a lot more but it was production destined for destruction, to be blown up on the battlefield, to be dropped out of airplanes in a manner that did not add to the economy. That was tremendous amounts of product and services that were analogously dropped into the Dempsey Dumpster and did not increase the wealth of the workers who built it all. There were few fat people in the thirties or the forties.


36 posted on 05/20/2017 11:36:49 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: ForYourChildren
Globalists think this situation is a disaster. It used to be considered a good thing and we called it prosperity. Now rising standard of living and higher wages are considered a crisis.
37 posted on 05/20/2017 11:40:38 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Alberta's Child
They usually demand higher pay than employees 20-30 years younger with comparable skills.

Only if you find out what they made at their current job. People don't just work for salary there are many other factors. But HR pinheads don't know that.

38 posted on 05/20/2017 11:47:42 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: arthurus

“People have a hard time seeing it that way because there are no breadlines. Actually there are breadlines and they are much more extensive than they were in the 30s.”

You are correct>

Some people are just so dumb.

One of my friends ask me that a few years ago. “If the economy is so bad and unemployment at the same level as Great Depression, how come I don’t see breadlines?” I was flabbergasted at his stupidity. I pointed out the EBT and welfare programs, and he walked away shaking his head.


39 posted on 05/20/2017 11:49:40 AM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: Organic Panic

45K for that experience?!?! Holy crap, that’s almost entry level field tech out here in CA.

I started at 29K in 1991 out here as a geologist and that’s with a bachelors. Ironically, the guy I always call for plumbing stuff I can’t take care of is a Phd’d geophysicist. He does kick ass though, and proves without a doubt that if you can “get shit done” you can get work doing just about anything.


40 posted on 05/20/2017 11:57:08 AM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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