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Pope Francis angered by America's 'mother of all bombs' name
BBC News ^ | 6th May | BBC News

Posted on 05/06/2017 6:46:51 PM PDT by Ennis85

Pope Francis has criticised the naming of the US military's largest non-nuclear explosive ever used in combat as "the mother of all bombs".

"I was ashamed when I heard the name," the pontiff told an audience of students at the Vatican. "A mother gives life and this one gives death, and we call this device a mother. What is going on?" he asked.

Last month the US dropped such a bomb, which weighs 21,600lb (9,800kg), on Islamic State militants in Afghanistan.

The Pentagon said it was dropped from a US aircraft in Nangarhar province, targeting tunnel complex used by IS.

The explosive is officially called the GBU-43/B Massive Ordnance Air Blast Bomb (MOAB), but is widely known as "the mother of all bombs". It was first tested in 2003, but had not been deployed in combat before. The Pope's comments come ahead of his meeting with US President Donald Trump on 24 May.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; francis; moab; pope
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To: Ennis85

With apologies to Saddam (The Mother of all Wars) I suggest we remake it the mo—— f——r of all bombs so as not to offend mothers everywhere.


61 posted on 05/06/2017 7:16:00 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Ennis85
There is much that a Christian leader could criticize the United States - e.g., 'Why are you still funding baby murderers through Planned Parenthood?' - but MOAB is not one of them.

As others have noted, this 'Pope' Francis is a communist atheist, who uses his clerical garb to push world wide communism. Nations, such as the United States, need to build up strong defenses. History has taught that this is the only way to dissuade wars (protecting one's borders is also a must).

62 posted on 05/06/2017 7:16:35 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Ennis85

Well I like the name..


63 posted on 05/06/2017 7:17:38 PM PDT by Davy Crocket
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To: Ennis85

It’s just an idiom.

From Dictionary.com:


Idioms

19.

mother of all, the greatest or most notable example of:

the mother of all mystery novels.


64 posted on 05/06/2017 7:25:36 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Ennis85

Wait til he sees the bigger and better version - the MFOAB!


65 posted on 05/06/2017 7:26:15 PM PDT by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: Ennis85

But he makes excuses for muslim atrocities.


66 posted on 05/06/2017 7:26:16 PM PDT by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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To: Ennis85

Is it wrong to tell the Pope to suck my a$$? I’m not Catholic so I don’t know. That’s the nicest reply I could come up with.


67 posted on 05/06/2017 7:33:19 PM PDT by culper jr (We need to stop our modern day Benedict Arnold.)
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To: gnarledmaw
The next pope is probably going to find the underside of everything covered in boogers and chewing gum.

That made me laugh.

68 posted on 05/06/2017 7:35:30 PM PDT by grimalkin (Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm. - Winston Churchill)
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To: culper jr

OK, let’s call it Dope Francis.


69 posted on 05/06/2017 7:36:04 PM PDT by huckfillary
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To: Gay State Conservative

The Pope I had the privilege to hear speak during one of his Sunday blessings to the throng in St. Peter’s Square. Such a commanding voice. He was the Pope respected by all Christians and the greatest Bishop of Rome in our lifetimes.


70 posted on 05/06/2017 7:39:58 PM PDT by katana (It still hasn't occurred to them that Trump doesn't give a s***)
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To: Ennis85

Will he object to the word paternalism being used as a negative thing?


71 posted on 05/06/2017 7:43:28 PM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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To: Ken H

That would be the Oedipus Wrecks Bomb.


72 posted on 05/06/2017 7:44:13 PM PDT by xp38
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To: Defiant

Exactly. It is sarcasm in response to the common and ongoing muslim promotion of violence that was made more obvious by that particular fascist muslim making that particular fascist / muslim boast.

Sigh ...


73 posted on 05/06/2017 7:49:10 PM PDT by Weirdad (Orthodox Americanism: It's what's good for the world! (Not communofascism!))
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To: Ennis85; gaijin; Gay State Conservative; Jane Long
In these sorts of situations, it's always instructive to adopt an "originalist" approach toward analysis. While we don't have Our Lord's views on ordnance of this type, we can look toward Pope Pius XII's commentary on the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings.

In short....silence. I can find no documentation covering the Vatican's press office's commentary on these bombs. One would have to imagine that if Pope Pius XII felt the same as Pope Francis, there would be some sort of utterance. And yet...silence

In a speech on September 30, 1954, Pope Pius XII laid down the following conditions for the legitimate use of nuclear weapons but I suspect Pope Francis may not walk in lockstep with our Wartime Pope:

1. Such use must be “imposed by an evident and extremely grave injustice;”

2. Such injustice cannot be avoided without the use of nuclear weapons;

3. One should pursue diplomatic solutions that avoid or limit the use of such weapons;

4. Their use must be indispensable to and in accordance with a nation’s defense needs;

5. That same use would be immoral if the destruction caused by the nuclear weapons were to result in harm so widespread as to be uncontrollable by man.

6. Unjustified uses should be severely punished as “crimes” under national and international law.

Pope Pius XII went further, stating that "In principle, one cannot even consider the question of the lawfulness of atomic, chemical and bacteriological war, except in the case when it is indispensable to defense, within the conditions mentioned. Even then, however, one must strive by all means to avoid it through international agreements or by creating limits for its use that are so clear and narrow that its effects are confined to the strict requirements of defense. "

Nothing about 'mother.'

It is real easy to sit in a HEPA-filtered office, surrounded by armed guards, and pontificate (no pun intended) about Life During Wartime. While I continue to pray for Pope Francis, it's vital to remember that he is not speaking with the full weight of the Church in this instance. As such, I am inclined to trust the wisdom of our Wartime Pope.

74 posted on 05/06/2017 7:57:21 PM PDT by DoodleBob
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To: culper jr

If it is the nicest reply, it is probably best to be quiet. That said, I’m not sure that it it worse than the nicest reply I could come up with—and I’m Catholic.


75 posted on 05/06/2017 8:01:12 PM PDT by Hieronymus (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton)
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To: Ennis85

What’s his take on “ m***** - f***** “?


76 posted on 05/06/2017 8:04:38 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: gaijin

Francis, the ass of all Popes!


77 posted on 05/06/2017 8:06:01 PM PDT by BOOHA
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To: gnarledmaw

The next pope is probably going to find the underside of everything covered in boogers and chewing gum.

quite frankly, I think the next pope is going to make Francis look like Aquinas...the last hurrah of the Vatican II crowd...


78 posted on 05/06/2017 8:10:18 PM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: cyclotic

The more I hear of this guy, the more SAD I AM a catholic. What an idiot.


79 posted on 05/06/2017 8:14:43 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Keep fighting the Left and their Fake News!)
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To: DoodleBob

Thank you for the informative comment (#74).


80 posted on 05/06/2017 8:15:14 PM PDT by Jackie in California
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