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To: Hugh the Scot
> I’m an EE & I’m pretty sure that “gender” is defined by external characteristics... The electrical connector with the contacts that stick out are male connectors, the receptacles they plug into are female. Not a social construct.

I've worked as an electrical and computer engineer most of my 65 years (despite having a BS in Physics, not EE), and while part of what you say is true (we do use "gender" to describe the male and female connectors), that's because decades ago, if we had used the proper term -- "sex" -- not one of us would have been able to keep a straight face. You practically couldn't say "sex" in polite business company back then. "Gender" was substituted for "sex" in a bow to the gentler sensibilities of those times.

Assuming you have worked in the field as long as I have (since the late 60's) or earlier, and remember what the industry was like in those times, you know what I'm saying is true.

FRegards,
Dayglored

30 posted on 05/03/2017 4:46:23 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

You’ve been at this a bit longer than I have, and for that, you have my deepest respect.

With eggheads, nothing ever changes... We’re still basically just 12 year old boys who blush at the word “sex” and think farting is hilarious in certain contexts.

I’m in complete agreement that in the terminology of connectors, that sex and gender serve as convenient synonyms; and for the very reasons you state.

The issue, as I see it, is the willful attempt by those with an agenda, to eradicate this secondary meaning of the term for political gain.

Merriam-Webster defines gender, first as a linguistic determinant, and secondly as - sex:

“a : sex the feminine gender
b : the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits
typically associated with one sex”

My sister is a biologist, and her definition is solidly conservative as well. Sex (genetic) determines gender (Physical traits).
My daughter the Psychologist sees differences, but can’t really define them. For her, it’s all mental / emotional.

Like you said in your previous post: “If you let your opponent define the terminology of the argument, YOU HAVE ALREADY LOST.”


31 posted on 05/04/2017 4:26:02 AM PDT by Hugh the Scot ( Total War)
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