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On the heels of inviting Duterte, confirmation that Trump will host Erdogan at the White House
Hotair ^ | 05/01/2017 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 05/01/2017 12:30:24 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

I realize it’s important to fill up your dance card, but this is looking rather grim. Only yesterday Allahpundit was left scratching his head over the fact that President Trump had extended an invitation to Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte to come visit the White House. Given that the guy has openly admitted to committing murder and is looking forward to more of the same, it’s cast a bit of a pall over things. But for the record, Duterte hasn’t actually accepted the invite yet, saying he might be busy on those dates with some other international travel.

Perhaps as a distraction from that social interaction, a few outlets this morning are confirming a story which was first floating around a week ago which indicated that Trump would also be hosting the tyrant of Turkey, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan in a couple of weeks.

Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan will meet his U.S. counterpart, Donald Trump, at the White House in an upcoming visit in mid-May, Turkish Presidential Spokesman Ibrahim Kalin said on Monday.

The invitation came from Trump, Kalin said, adding the two would discuss Syria, Iraq and the potential extradition of the U.S.-based Muslim cleric Fethullah Gulen, whom Ankara accuses of orchestrating a failed coup last year.

To call this a questionable gambit is a stretch. Sure, you might think of Duterte as the worse authoritarian of the two, what with all of the Murdery McMurderface activity, but Erdogan’s recent track record is worse in some ways. Keep in mind that it was only a few days ago when he locked up thousands more police officers on top of the tens of thousands of law enforcement officials, journalists and doctors he had already tossed in the dungeons. If you want a long list of our stories about the destruction of democracy in Turkey just browse through the list.

I get the fact that you can’t completely ignore other world leaders, even when their behavior crosses well over the line of being “questionable” in some cases. We have a long relationship with the Philippines and until not all that long ago they were home to one of our biggest naval bases in that part of the world. We still have a significant presence in the region, though the relationship has been evolving for a while now. But there’s a difference between maintaining something which at least resembles stable relations and having their leader over for high tea in the Rose Garden.

Same thing goes for Erdogan. He’s been holding an American pastor captive there for going on half a year and one of his most recent air strikes threatened to take out some American advisors in the area who were working with the Kurds. Add to that the rest of the tyranny activity and it makes for a particularly unsavory visit. I certainly hope that the President knows what he’s doing here. If he’s got some plan to bring Turkey back in line with democratic values and tone down the violence in the Philippines and thinks these meetings are part of that process then I will prepare to be pleasantly surprised. But does anyone else really see that as a likely scenario? I certainly don’t.

Now I’m just waiting to see if the President of Venezuela gets a free night in the Lincoln bedroom. Politics makes for strange bedfellows, but some of these meetings just seem over the line.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: duterte; erdogan; philippines; trump45; trumpasia; trumpforeignpolicy; trumpnato; turkey
I don't think one can compare, much less equate Duterte with Erdogan.

The former has not done anything to the Philippine constitution and has not done anything even drastic to silence the opposition ( much less staged a coup ). Erdogan is another matter.

1 posted on 05/01/2017 12:30:24 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Trump should concentrate on keeping his election promises rather than inviting tyrants to the White House. So far he has Gorsuch and nothing else.


2 posted on 05/01/2017 12:35:28 PM PDT by Uncle Sam 911
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t like Erdogan at all. But I do not object to his meeting with these unsavory characters. As Churchill famously said: “To jaw-jaw is better than to war-war.”
I was impressed by the seeming rapport Trump developed with the Chinese premier after just one meeting.


3 posted on 05/01/2017 12:35:50 PM PDT by Blennos ( As)
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To: Blennos

I don’t like Erdogan at all. But I do not object to President Trump meeting with these unsavory characters. As Churchill famously said: “To jaw-jaw is better than to war-war.”
I was impressed by the seeming rapport Trump developed with the Chinese premier after just one meeting.


4 posted on 05/01/2017 12:36:31 PM PDT by Blennos ( As)
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To: SeekAndFind

How old is Jazz Shaw that he doesn’t realize that most past presidents have hosted many world leaders who you wouldn’t let babysit your kids?


5 posted on 05/01/2017 12:37:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The NeverTrumpers getting the vapors in 3...2...1...

“Trump should [insert thing being cried over here] and not hold meetings for anything else!”


6 posted on 05/01/2017 12:38:08 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Uncle Sam 911

Really? Gorsuch is his only accomplishment so far? Did you just come out of a coma?


7 posted on 05/01/2017 12:39:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He had the Chinese Premier over last month.
Not a peep.
If anyone has a nasty totalitarian record it is any leader of China. Ever.


8 posted on 05/01/2017 12:43:49 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama met Castro and I bet Castro killed a hell of alot more people than the PI President. at least they have a reduced drug problem in the PI.


9 posted on 05/01/2017 12:47:33 PM PDT by wetgundog (The Left Lies All the Time)
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To: SeekAndFind

You’re right
Duterte just murders people via government sanctioned hit squads.


10 posted on 05/01/2017 12:52:51 PM PDT by maxtheripper
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To: SeekAndFind

You invest your time in people who can actually provide a result. Nice and genteel gets nowhere - not when you have dirt under the nails guys like Duarte and Erdogan. Both leaders - regardless of your squeamishness - get results. Turkey can single-handedly shut down the land route of ISIS invasion of Europe. Duarte can stomp out the west Pacific drug and terrorism corridor. Both guys are right for the job. Noone’s asking them to take your daughter to prom.


11 posted on 05/01/2017 12:57:27 PM PDT by FormerRep
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To: FormerRep

Duarte = Duterte or whatever


12 posted on 05/01/2017 12:58:49 PM PDT by FormerRep
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To: SeekAndFind

I wonder if Shaw would protest an invitation to China’s Big Dong Chink or Russia’s Putin?


13 posted on 05/01/2017 2:56:17 PM PDT by libertylover (In 2016 small-town America got tired of being governed by people who don't know a boy from a girl.)
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To: SeekAndFind

There’s something rotten, definitely terror-related, going on in The Philippines - a visit from Duerte and his minders can give the US a good handle on global communications patterns plus lots more.

Don’t see any minus except possibly public opinion, which we know doesn’t matter anymore.

Erdogan - same conclusion.


14 posted on 05/01/2017 3:04:05 PM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Did you? No wall, no stopping sanctuary cities/states, money for everything he said NO to, no pulling the Iran deal, no pulling NAFTA, I wish I was in a dream world but this nightmare is getting worse and worse.


15 posted on 05/01/2017 5:34:50 PM PDT by Uncle Sam 911
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To: Uncle Sam 911

The wall will be funded one way or another. NAFTA is being renegotiated as we speak. The sanctuary issue is headed to the Supreme Court. You should read more of the news we post here.


16 posted on 05/01/2017 5:38:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You shouldnt be so naive as to believe what you hear coming from Republicans in DC.


17 posted on 05/02/2017 10:31:56 AM PDT by Uncle Sam 911
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