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US top court rejects 'gay conversion' therapy ban challenge
jpost.com ^ | 5/1/17 | REUTERS

Posted on 05/01/2017 9:52:31 AM PDT by ColdOne

May 1 - The US Supreme Court on Monday left intact California's ban on "gay conversion" therapy aimed at turning youths under age 18 away from homosexuality, rejecting a Christian minister's challenge to the law asserting it violates religious rights.

The justices, turning away a challenge to the 2012 law for the second time in three years, let stand a lower court's ruling that it was constitutional and neither impinged upon free exercise of religion nor impacted the activities of clergy members.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: exgays; exodusinternational; gayconversion; homonaziagenda; homopsychoagenda; homosexualagenda; homotyranny; lawsuit; ministry; religiousliberty; scotus
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"Gay conversion therapy methods range from counseling, hypnosis and dating-skill training to aversive techniques that induce pain or electric shocks in response to same-sex erotic images [emphases added], according to California officials. Such treatments stem from a belief that homosexuality is a mental illness, a view that has been discredited for decades, the state said in court papers."

????????????

Sounds like evil on both sides of the fence.

Insights welcome.

21 posted on 05/01/2017 10:31:32 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: ColdOne

When governments and politicians get involved in psychology, particularly for political purposes, watch out!

Its like the Soviet Union.


22 posted on 05/01/2017 10:33:10 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: ColdOne

Why is it legal to convert a normal person into a sexual deviate but not legal to try to convert the person back to normality?


23 posted on 05/01/2017 10:35:59 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (Best Long Term Prepper Tactic: Beat The Muslim Takeover - Have Big Families)
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To: for-q-clinton

What’s the logic period?

Shrinks are allowed to “help” kooks who want to be turned from men into women. How could it be illegal for doctors to help sick people who want to be normal?


24 posted on 05/01/2017 10:36:10 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: ColdOne

The headline is confusing. Actually, if I understand this correctly, the court simply decided not to hear the case. Their reasons are not given, but it may simply be a matter of state’s rights. If Californians want to be idiots, that’s their privilege.

Actually, too, most psychiatrists I have known have been idiots. A preacher or a sensible person talking to the gay in question may be more helpful—and charge much less.


25 posted on 05/01/2017 10:43:47 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: ColdOne

It’s ok to indoctrinate them into being homosexuals but not ok to help them go back. Gotcha.


26 posted on 05/01/2017 11:50:47 AM PDT by Trillian
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To: ColdOne
There is NO "gay gene." The scientific method has confirmed this.

The soft science of the development of same-sex attraction syndrome is true.

People can be born with certain traits, and when placed into a certain environment/family situation can lead to same-sex attraction syndrome.

This syndrome is curable, but NOT promoted as such anymore once the APA figured out ('70's? '80's?) that they could keep people in the syndrome and make a TON of money with PERPETUAL shrink sessions, thereby never healing the syndrome and the whole person.

... disgusting ...

27 posted on 05/01/2017 12:26:56 PM PDT by Rocky Mountain Wild Turkey ("I have an open mind ... just not so open that my brain falls out onto the floor!!")
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To: for-q-clinton

I think the qualifying word would be ‘for pay.’ In other words, a paid counselor, psychologist, or medical person.

At least that’s what they say now. Count on them construing this to mean any effort to help youth overcome same-sex attraction. It’s coming.


28 posted on 05/01/2017 1:06:57 PM PDT by fwdude (Democrats have not been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves.)
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To: Rocky Mountain Wild Turkey
>>There is NO "gay gene."

Facts like that are irrelevant to a culture that has been brainwashed into a state of transhumanist/postgenderist psychosis.


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psy·cho·sis
sīˈkōsəs/
noun
a severe mental disorder in which thought and emotions are so impaired that contact is lost with external reality.

https://www.google.com/#q=Psychosis

Got Strategic Demoralization?

"According to my opinion, and the opinions of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money, and manpower is spent on espionage as such.
 
The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion, active measures, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is: to change the perception of reality of every American that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country.
 
It's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages.
 
The first stage being "demoralization". It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years required to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of [their] enemy. In other words, Marxism-Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least 3 generation of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism; American patriotism.
 
Most of the activity of the department [KGB] was to compile huge amount / volume of information, on individuals who were instrumental in creating public opinion.  Publisher, editors, journalists, uh actors, educationalists, professors of political science.  Members of parliament, representatives of business circles."
--KGB Defector Yuri Bezmenov
--Soviet Subversion of the Free Press (Ideological subversion, Destabilization, CRISIS - and the KGB)
 
 

29 posted on 05/01/2017 3:04:34 PM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: for-q-clinton

So where was Gorsuch?


30 posted on 05/01/2017 10:18:40 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: ColdOne

If it does not effect the activities of clergy, then conversion therapy is not illegal for Christian organizations. Christian leaders do not need to avoid the subject of redemption and change. This law effects secularists.


31 posted on 05/03/2017 5:04:25 AM PDT by SaraJohnson ( Whites being racially harassed and harmed by Leftist in power need to sue! It's pay day.)
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