N. Korea official: U.S. efforts to rid nukes a ‘wild dream’

Toronto Sun ^ | APRIL 28, 2017 | EDITH M. LEDERER

[TigerLikesRooster]

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I doubt NK even has a working bomb. To date, as far as I can tell from internet searches, there has been no definitive proof that NK has successfully detonated a nuclear device. Neither by isotope sniffing planes, or by seismic analysis. Data so far suggests caverns packed with conventional explosives, and an elaborate ruse to use as a bargaining chip.

[caww]

Tiger....today Security Council had Emergency meeting regarding N.Korea......Kims response was he just fired another Missile....though it failed...that was certainly a smack in their faces he’s going to do his own thing regardless.

I do think Kim and his cohorts genuinely believe that their nuclear capability is sufficient to ward off any of ours or UNS military measures and sanctions etc against them. It would seem Kim doesn’t have a concern and is going to keep up his antics.

[caww]

The problem is he’s not far from it or already has it.....and that’s what is the concern....you don’t wait until he fires one off.

[Cheerio]

I don't hear folk mentioning this and I am wondering if everyone has forgotten. We have non other than Bubba Klintoon and Madeleine Halfbright to thank for this current Korean mess.

FLASHBACK: Albright: North Korea 'Cheated' on Clinton Nuke Agreement, 2004

[TigerLikesRooster]

He won't stop. It is only a matter of pace control. He is now holding off a nuke test, but instead firing conventional missiles to show that he is not wavering. If he believes that the tension dies down a bit, he will set off his 6th nuke.

I think he is confident that U.S. won't do anything worse that what it did in the past. Hence he continues to be belligerent. His dream may be only a year away. It is so close that he can smell it.

[The Antiyuppie]

They probably do, any country willing to put the time and industrial/economic effort into a uranium bomb could do it. I think their implosions have been semi-duddy. But even a dud is bad, it might even be messier than having it blow up.

[TigerLikesRooster]

I credit Florida Recount for stopping Clintonoids from carrying it to the end. Clinton's plan was to establish a normal diplomatic relation with N. Korea when he makes a visit to Pyongyang before he steps down. The recount demanded so much efforts that he wasn't able to get back to his plan. An example of Butterfly Effect.

[caww]

I agree Tiger...the guys absolutely convinced nothing will happen regardless of what he fires off...failure or not...he’s putting it to everyones face he’s not stopping....and nobody can make him do so.

Now we wait.....because IF China fails to stop this lunatic...which it appears they have little control now... the world leaders are going to go ahead and show him who will stop him.

[caww]

.....”He is now holding off a nuke test, but instead firing conventional missiles to show that he is not wavering”....

He has set off nuclear tests underground before as we know.....but this is getting pretty dicey.

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He has set off nuclear tests underground before as we know...

Actually, we don't know. That's the point.

[caww]

Washington-based Institute for Science and international Security estimated last year that North Korea had 10 to 16 nuclear weapons at the end of 2014.

This was based on analysis of the country’s production of weapons-grade uranium and plutonium recovered from spent nuclear fuel.

Revised estimates mean that the total could now have between 13 and 21.

The country is also believed to have four warheads.

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So you don’t know, but you can cite a study that extrapolates from guestimates. Got it.

[caww]

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When the Soviet Union was testing bombs, there was no question they were doing just that. The seismic signatures were right, the decay products were easily detected. They even released films of tests for propaganda purposes, and that was sixty years ago. NK has conducted their tests under highly suspicious circumstances with lots of bluster and little actual proof they have what they claim to have.

[caww]

Nuclear test in N.Korea showed and recorded in S.Korea

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That’s a photo of a guy standing in front of some seismic signatures. Find me an article that states definitavely that nuclear experts/seismologists have determined with certainty that it indeed was a nuclear test. The p-wave signature is the key.

[caww]

According to the NY Times....So far, all but one of the North’s nine Musudan tests since last year have been failures, with the projectiles exploding in flames during launching or shortly after liftoff.

[caww]

Well I’m not scientifically minded so I don’t know exactly the markings your referencing. What is a p-wave signature and how is it recorded and by what sort of equipment. Then I can go from there and see what’s there.