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No. Arizona University student was recently asked to stop reading his Bible prior to the start...
CampusReform.org ^ | Apr 27, 2017 at 4:18 PM EDT | Anthony Gockowski

Posted on 04/28/2017 9:30:13 AM PDT by Syncro

A Northern Arizona University student was recently asked to stop reading his Bible prior to the start of one of his classes, according to audio obtained by Campus Reform.

In a recording of the February incident, provided to Campus Reform by Kevin Cavanaugh for Congress, Mark Holden explains the situation to History Department Chair Derek Heng, who had been called in by the instructor, Dr. Heather Martel, after Holden had refused her request that he put his Bible away.

“So, will you, will you, will you, put your Bible away?”   

Holden tells Heng that he had arrived early to his U.S. history course and, as usual, used the spare time to read his Bible, but claims that Martel had objected to the routine because she didn’t want to see a Bible in front of her.

“So Prof. Martel says that she doesn’t want you sitting in front of her because you put, you know, a Bible out, right?” Heng can be heard explaining to Holden, adding that while he doesn’t “know what the dynamics [are] going on in the classroom,” the “real key is to make sure that, you know, the class is able to go on and that you are in the classroom.”

“So she doesn’t want me in the front because I have my Bible out?” Holden responded for clarification, to which Heng responded by inquiring as to why Holden had his Bible out in the first place.

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“No, I think she, I mean, well why do you have your Bible out anyway?” Heng asked, with Holden clarifying that he was “just reading before class” and that the class hadn’t “even started yet.”

Nonetheless, and despite Holden’s protestations that class wasn’t going to begin for “another five minutes,” Heng concluded the conversation by again asking Holden if he would put his Bible away.

“So, will you, will you, will you, put your Bible away?” he asks, to which Holden replies that he always puts his Bible away once class begins, stating that he only reads the Bible “before class” and always makes sure to stow it away “before class starts.”

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Prior to the Bible altercation, Holden had been accused by Martel of violating the school’s policy on disruptive classroom behavior for an encounter in which Holden challenged Martel’s views on cultural assimilation.

Holden told Campus Reform that he had cited news reports about two Muslim immigrants who erected a sign declaring that the Koran gives them the right to commit rape, saying he used it as an example of a case in which cultural assimilation might be desirable.

According to an email that Martel sent to Holden explaining the violation, Holden had allegedly interrupted the class multiple times and “made a scene,” only stopping after a classmate intervened.

“Then you raised your hand for most of the rest of class. When I acknowledged that I saw your hand but stated we would be hearing from your classmates instead as you had already had your input, you said in a loud voice: ‘You work for me. I pay your salary,’” Martel alleged in the email, though neither she nor Heng responded to Campus Reform’s requests for elaboration on the matter.

Martel then sent out a second email about the altercation, not just to Holden but to the entire class, outlining “steps to re-instate [sic] civility in the classroom” and declaring emphatically that “hate speech” would not be tolerated.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: antichristian; arizona; bible; biblereading; christianpersecution; education; freespeech; nau
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To: reasonisfaith

There is much in what you say. Nevertheless, we must publically proclaim the faith, and I see no benefit, to us or the Gospel, in allowing ourselves to be bullied.


41 posted on 04/28/2017 7:48:37 PM PDT by chesley (What is life but a long dialog with imbeciles? - Pierre Ryckmans)
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To: Brown Deer

Who is that guy in the picture?


42 posted on 04/28/2017 7:59:21 PM PDT by Syncro (Facts is facts)
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To: TXnMA
No, the correct answer is, "I am pursuing happiness via the enjoyment of my First Amendment rights.

Actually it's the First Amendment's "freedom of religion".

What Constitutional principle is the Instructor exercising?"

He's practicing "prohibiting the free exercise thereof"...which is a violation of Constitutional Rights, if the school receives government funding.

43 posted on 04/28/2017 8:01:35 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (The fear of stark justice sends hot urine down their thighs.)
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To: TXnMA

Works for me.


44 posted on 04/29/2017 9:16:37 AM PDT by DPMD
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