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Border wall fight looms as White House, Capitol Hill scramble for deal to avert shutdown
CNN ^ | April 24th, 2017 | By Deirdre Walsh and Ted Barrett

Posted on 04/24/2017 5:42:44 PM PDT by Mariner

(CNN) Fights over money to pay for a border wall -- as well as Obamacare subsidies and an infusion of resources for the military -- are threatening to trip up congressional talks over a funding bill to head off a government shutdown Friday.

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But Democrats are warning that the White House, which stayed out of the fray during much of these talks, is ratcheting up demands, insisting on including border wall money in exchange for continuing to pay insurance companies subsidies to bolster the Obamacare marketplace, which they say is a nonstarter. President Donald Trump highlighted the issue over the weekend and on Monday.

"The Wall is a very important tool in stopping drugs from pouring into our country and poisoning our youth (and many others)!" Trump tweeted.

But White House officials said late Sunday that they did not want the government to shut down over any impasse in the spending talks -- and that's a directive straight from the President.

Top administration officials explained to the President this weekend that the most likely scenario is a stopgap bill that would last a week or so until a deal is reached. "There's no interest in a shutdown," an official says, adding they will "do what it takes" to avoid one.

Aides for the top Republicans and Democrats on the appropriations committees say they are making progress under the deadline pressure. But they also concede that significant sticking points remain and Congress, which is returning from a two-week recess, will have just a few days to get a bill to the President's desk.

Multiple aides tell CNN that Congress may need to pass a stopgap measure -- potentially for a week or more -- to give them time to reach a final deal.

(Excerpt) Read more at amp.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 115th; buildthewall; shutdown; trump45
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To: SkyPilot

“The media say they need 60 Senators to pass the budget, which seems like insanity to me.”

Lets Hope so! A ‘Government shutdown’ simply means the government runs on revenue which means Donald Trump gets to pick the 30% of government to defend and shut down.

Donald Trump already wants to get rid of way more than that!

Im thinking we could do without a whole lot of leftist agencies from EPA, BLM, most of IRS, all of ATF, FDA, and a whole host of other agencies to save money for priories like Border patrol and military defense.

The RINO’s and Democrats will have to negotiate if they ever want these left-wing agencies tyrannizing the people again.

Trump will be able to demand a very high legislative price, or eventually most of their employees will quit. Then if they ever do reopen trump gets to stack them with conservatives who don’t want them to work, and yet can’t be fired.

This is the perfect situation for Donald Trump, it lets him do what he wants and demand what he needs in negotiation with congress.

Trump should MAKE SURE Government shuts down and stays shut dowe until the democrats sequel and compromise.

Otherwise we get 4 years of freedom, and maybe then the American people will realist how little they need these hugely expensive agencies.


41 posted on 04/24/2017 9:14:00 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Mariner

The wall has been authorized for years.

Money is fungible.

Obama shifted funds in a manner not allowed by law.

Donald will learn how.


42 posted on 04/24/2017 9:54:12 PM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: Mariner

It’s going hurt Trump if he does not get the money for the fence. The uniparty knows this.


43 posted on 04/25/2017 2:30:55 AM PDT by SaraJohnson ( Whites being racially harassed and harmed by Leftist in power need to sue! It's pay day.)
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To: Dave W

Why doesn’t the filibuster rule apply in the fall?


44 posted on 04/25/2017 5:51:36 AM PDT by TakebackGOP
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To: rainee

The wall must happen or most of us supporters are gone the wall is so important and not negotiable. If President Trump reneges on this I will no longer support him and work for his defeat. He will have left the reservation. It’s one of the major reasons he is president and has the silent majority


45 posted on 04/25/2017 5:56:42 AM PDT by datricker (Democratic Party - aborting their voter base since 1973)
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To: datricker

Trumps going to get the best deal no matter what it looks like in the press propaganda.....the wall will go up...but it needs to be done in the right way...and he needs to be given the room to make it happen. The contractors have submitted their bids....now it’s about paying for it to go up....negotiations move back and forth and will do so on this as well.


47 posted on 04/25/2017 6:16:33 AM PDT by caww
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To: Mariner
How much are we talking about to fund the START of construction $2B maybe $4B? That isn't even pocket change.

So we are going to the mattresses over pocket change? Thanks GOPe. What a bunch of douche wad Chamber of Crony K Street butt boys you are. But we already knew that.

48 posted on 04/25/2017 6:23:40 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Mariner

"No time to go wobbly, Donald"


49 posted on 04/25/2017 6:57:02 AM PDT by COBOL2Java ("Game over, man, game over!" (my advice to DemocRATs))
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To: Mariner
The Wall...or nothing at all!
50 posted on 04/25/2017 7:50:11 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: TakebackGOP

Because the budget is passed under special rules called reconciliation and under reconciliation rules, no filibuster is allowed...it is a majority vote.


52 posted on 04/25/2017 8:49:49 AM PDT by Dave W
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To: Dave W

But they have a majority. They just don’t have the 60 votes. Obamacare was passed through reconciliation.


53 posted on 04/25/2017 9:07:20 AM PDT by TakebackGOP
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To: TakebackGOP

Some of it was passed via reconciliation, but some of it required 60 votes in the Senate.


54 posted on 04/25/2017 12:55:10 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: Mariner; MinuteGal

wo families: “Joe Legal” and “Jose Illegal”. Both families have two parents, two children and live in California

Joe Legal works in construction, has a Social Security Number and makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.

Jose Illegal also works in construction, has NO Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 cash “under the table”.

Joe Legal: $25.00 per hour x 40 hours = $1000.00 per week, or $52,000.00 per year. Now take 30% away for state and federal tax; Joe Legal now has $31,231.00.

Jose Illegal: $15.00 per hour x 40 hours = $600.00 per week, or $31,200.0 0 per year. Jose Illegal pays no taxes Jose Illegal now has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for his family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $24,031.00.

Jose Illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the state and local clinics and emergency hospitals at a cost of $0.00 per year... Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or welfare.
Joe Legal pays $500.00 per month for food, or $6,000.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $18,031.00.

Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps, WIC and welfare.Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal pays rent of $1,200.00 per month, or $14,400.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $9,631 00.

Jose Illegal receives a $500.00 per month Federal Rent Subsidy. Jose Illegal pays out that $500.00 per month, or $6,000.00 per year.Jose Illegal still has
$31,200.00.

Joe Legal pays $200.00 per month, or $2,400.00 for car insurance. Some of that is uninsured motorist insurance. Joe Legal now has $7,231.00.

Jose Illegal says, “We don’t need no stinkin’ insurance!” and still has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, etc..

Jose Illegal has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline and what he sends out of the country every month..

Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work.

Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.

Joe Legal’s and Jose Illegal’s children both attend the same elementary school.
Joe Legal pays for his children’s lunches, while Jose Illegal’s children get a government sponsored lunch.
Jose Illegal’s children have an after school ESL program. Joe Legal’s children go home.

Now, when they reach college age, Joe Legal’s kids may not get into a State School and may not qualify for scholarships, grants or other tuition help, even though Joe has been paying for State Schools through his taxes, while Jose Illegal’s kids “go to the head of the class” because they are a minority.
Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same police and fire services, but Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay.

If you vote for a person who approves of illegals crashing the border, you are a part of the problem.


55 posted on 04/25/2017 1:03:38 PM PDT by seenenuf (First win the war(s) then enjoy the peace.)
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To: seenenuf; flaglady47; Maine Mariner; ExTexasRedhead; Chigirl 26; entropy12; DoughtyOne; danamco; ...
HERE IT IS, FOLKS...ALL LAID OUT FOR YOU ON "JOSE'S" SILVER PLATTER !!!

Read # 55 above and weep!

This is understandable info right at your fingertips. Every freeper should absorb it, then forward it on to your lists.

Thanks, Seenenuf, for the eye-opening post. I'm sending it to my list now.

Leni

56 posted on 04/25/2017 1:38:32 PM PDT by MinuteGal (GO TRUMP !!!.....GO PENCE !!!.....GO USA !!!)
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To: seenenuf; MinuteGal

Thanks you two...


57 posted on 04/25/2017 1:43:00 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Happy days are here again!)
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To: seenenuf

I would change the education information.

Joe now has to pay for parochial schooling for his children because the public school has been taken over by the children of illegal aliens, and it’s not safe for them there any longer.

Joe - another $3,000 a year per child.

Jose - free ride of course

When they were still going there, they would sit and read while their teacher taught the other children English.

At recess time the Jose’s kids would harass and pick fights with Joe’s kids.


58 posted on 04/25/2017 1:46:50 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Happy days are here again!)
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To: MinuteGal; seenenuf

Thanks for the ping, Minute Gal!

EXCELLENT tutorial, dear seenenuf!


59 posted on 04/25/2017 1:52:30 PM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public Education/Academia are the farm team for more Marxists coming... infinitum.)
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To: RitaOK; All; seenenuf
JOSE CAN WE SEE? YOU BET!

To add to the EXCELLENT and REVEALING post # 55 by Seenenuf above, we can also factor in the unreported CASH that Jose rakes in for part-time or odd jobs outside of his construction job.

Most of us know that just about everybody has some kind of worker who prefers cash for little services provided in our homes.

Totaling everything up in Seenuf's post and add a li'l bit 'o cash here, there and everywhere, we discover that illegal invader Jose and his compadres have it better than millions of our own citizens !

Leni

60 posted on 04/25/2017 3:20:14 PM PDT by MinuteGal (GO TRUMP !!!.....GO PENCE !!!.....GO USA !!!)
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